1.1.2015 Considerations for INVESTING 1st- Trading last.
Reading Swenson- 'Unconventional success" and he -like Bogle- points out how fees are what dilutes many investors returns.
Let me use my trading account cost results compared to VOO- the low cost Vanguard S&P 500 fund.. THE VOO HAS A 1 YEAR RETURN OF 13.63 AS OF TODAY.
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0968&FundIntExt=INT
Granted, this is a relatively small account - with only $1 commissions- but some added fees
that occur monthly- If this was a larger account, those fees would be less proportionately- but I expect there are others out here also in similar situations with account size a detriment.
Here is what is surprising as i reviewed the year statement -and then started to consider what the impact of the expenses were-commissions-fees-
My actual nominal gain for the year was +16%- but after those expenses were deducted- return was 12.77% Then I started to think about what those fees cost from my decent performance- about 4% of the net 16% went to fees, and that tallied up to 23% of my profits went to fees. This is worth understanding in trading as well as in Investing-
The fees the industry can extract keeps the industry alive - at the expense of the investor/trader.
If I -as an active trader - have additional fees to compete against a passive index- my performance must not simply match, but outperform.
If 20-25% of my gains are eaten up by the system- could i eliminate those excess costs and still achieve market matching- or beating results? reportedly a large % of professionals fail to match the market-
Perhaps fees are hitting us larger than we realize-Hurting our performance.
One goal is for me to analyze this cost expense further in my trading-and Investing.
Another goal - what do i want to accomplish in my trading?
Could i make just $10.00 a day clear ? $50/week? ....
That seems very understated- But, Can I do that week in , week out?
If i can, I will make $50 x $52 weeks = $2600.00 or a 27% gain above my present account value.
VOO returned 13.63 % this year- with those that purchased through Vanguard not paying any commission and owning one of the least expensive low cost funds of all time, mimicing the S&P as a passive index with an expense ratio of $00.05% That 5 cents- not 5%
I don't know if there are limits or time restrictions to trade in and out of these funds- but
as i consider the fees and expense ratios charged in the Investment side with actively managed mutual funds charging much higher expense fees and not providing the exceptional out performance a professionally managed fund should deliver- it is worthy of evaluating what impact those higher fees are having in the overall return.
To get outperformance- after fees- one has to really exceed the benchmark index.
Anyone interested in learning more how fees may be eating into your investment returns
can get more information- from a number of sources-
John C Bogle - books and website-
Vanguard.com
Swenson- Unconventional Success
The Ivy Portfolio-Mebane Faber-
Daniel Solin- quick read- Smartest Portfolio
http://www.ifa.com/ tons of video information-promoting their view of passive is better-
There is an opposing point of view that suggests active management-portfolio allocation- rebalancing- is outside of many investors interests and desires to learn, and having a professional to take care of this is in the individuals best interests- But one should indeed compare results and costs for what they are receiving.
For example- Where are your company's retirement accounts managed? Are you paying a commission fee (load) to them as they take your investment dollars and invest them in their products? There are likely a lot of folks that assume that this is the norm and not questioning whether it is in their best interests or not.
It makes sense to get every dime of your employer match (free money) . Ideally, this would be in a no-load account and no commissions charged on the monies coming in- If there is a charge- front end load- class A or delayed back in charge- Class B or C- it would be worth talking to the powers that be to consider another investment company (Vanguard would be one- Tiaa- Creff another.
If you can contribute greater than the employer match, but are paying fees and commissions- take those extra IRA dollars- or do a ROTH and open up an account with Ameritrade- or Vanguard with no fees, no commissions on many etf products- and Invest-
dollar cost average in with monthly or weekly contributions-
Start an account for the young ones!
This year I will be giving consideration to moving my wifes & my Investment accounts over to a Vanguard account-
as far as the trading account- I'll see what Friday brings- I have some freed cash-
Make sure the stops are all set properly- may consider a short position- sds perhaps