Live futures trading room - view of order entry

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Would you pay to view a 15-minute-DELAYED DOM (order entry tool) of a profitable futures trader?

  • YES

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • NO

    Votes: 19 82.6%

  • Total voters
    23
If you good, best to become CTA and charge 40% of profits. Dealing with giving calls live or laughable delayed is huge pain in arse, only 20% actually will do the calls as those who take services are usually too scared to take them, and those that do take them are not doing one lots as they mixture of profitable, vendors or heavier traders. Best to walk away from this notion and add one more lot, good traders will make more in one day than whatever service one provides for entire room for the month. Plus, good traders can figure out for most part what you are doing and will steal it, you end up competing for price.
 
Never had and never would join any type of trading chat room - for me any external input will make me start second guessing what I am doing. It would be stupid to assume someone is profitable because they say so. Are they showing you at least several years of audited tax records by and breaking down their trading metrics like every CTA does? It is always amazing at how many people will jump on board for training from someone they know nothing about - a fool and their money are easily parted.
 
My intention is not to sell signals or promise anything. I would offer a service which perhaps might help someone to trade using my methodology (short-term intraday trades in liquid futures markets). I would not like to share it "as it happens" since this would adversely affect my trading performance as other market participants would see what I am doing. I will offer only practical education, in a way. Using it to make a profit is another thing and that is up to the client.
 
WOW were do you guys come from ????? If you Luke are making money great, if not then work harder. what the hell, If you are really making money then why on why would you need traders watching you? Its a hoax traders, any smart programmer can change a trading platform to show wins after 15 minims. You fools that said yes to watching Luke trade grow up and study harder, STOP being fools! Like the old saying goes "a fool in his money is soon parted"
 
It can be good to show live experience. There's a fundamental problem to mentoring tho:

- A good trader can easily make 500k£ to 1m£ per year. If they don't have the capital themselves they go and work in hedge funds / trading houses / assisted brokerage companies / commodity risk management etc.

- A beginner will never pay more than 4-5k£ for mentoring. You might find a few who are willing to pay 25k£ but not many.

- Mentoring is a big pain in the ass and a huge time consumer, for someone who makes 1m£, it wouldn't be profitable to do it for less than 250k£ net of taxes.

- 250k£ / 5k£ : you need 40 guys to sign up and maybe do 2 sessions a year so you need to convince 1 guy every 2 business days to give you 5k£.

- Because it's not viable, the only persons who mentor don't make 1m£ a year. But who wants to hear what someone who doesn't make 1m£ a year does.... I guess people who have a 500 £ budget and not a 5k£ or 25k£ budget... you see the problem

Thank you all for taking time to contribute to this thread and voting in the poll. It gave me good food for thought.

I am looking to find a business model that would allow me to capitalize on my trading not purely by using my own, relatively small capital. Trying to figure out how to get bigger and get there in a reasonable time. I am considering two ruotes: education/mentoring, or managing other people's money. The obstacles with the latter are regulatory issues (costs, bureaucratic approval/rejection of my application to become regulated) and lack of connections with potential clients.

However, I do agree that these two routes should not be combined - it would not be credible to be a serious professional such as a CTA and be part of the dodgy "trading education scam" at the same time, despite my best intentions.
 
Thank you all for taking time to contribute to this thread and voting in the poll. It gave me good food for thought.

I am looking to find a business model that would allow me to capitalize on my trading not purely by using my own, relatively small capital. Trying to figure out how to get bigger and get there in a reasonable time. I am considering two ruotes: education/mentoring, or managing other people's money. The obstacles with the latter are regulatory issues (costs, bureaucratic approval/rejection of my application to become regulated) and lack of connections with potential clients.

However, I do agree that these two routes should not be combined - it would not be credible to be a serious professional such as a CTA and be part of the dodgy "trading education scam" at the same time, despite my best intentions.

You have more chance of doing what you want by managing other people's money.

If you have less than 10 clients, don't cold call and manage less than 14m$, you may not even need to register (assuming you only trade derivatives and not securities and that you live in the US). The competition is very tough however so you'd still probably need to find friends and family money first.
 
Before I vote, I think I am missing something here: How come a DOM trade is delayed?
I thought it is for a "present tense" trading ?
 
For most endeavors, including trading, watch and learn is extremely limiting.

I know for a fact no matter how much I watch LeBron James live I'll never get there.
 
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