‘Like a Terror Movie’: How Climate Change Will Cause More Simultaneous Disasters

[maxpi]

This is shocking. I am shocked. Nobody could have seen this coming. Who knew that geothermal heat can melt ice?

Many of us here have been making this point for years. Scientist haven't even quantified melting due to geothermal activity. However, retards like Fraudcurrents have been stating for years it is all due to CO2.

https://www.sciencealert.com/a-mysterious-geothermal-heat-source-is-melting-antarctica-from-below

When it comes to measuring ice loss at the poles, and predicting what might happen next, scientists need as much accurate data as they can get – and a new study suggests there's a big source of geothermal heat underneath East Antarctica that we haven't yet factored into our calculations.

It's not the only newly discovered source of heat under Antarctica either. A study published last year suggests an extensive amount of underground heating is going on in West Antarctica too, perhaps melting ice faster than it can accumulate.

As geothermal heat sources such as the newly identified one have likely been around for a long, long time, we're not off the hook when it comes to causing accelerated ice melt at the North and South Poles.

No... the continents float on top of the water and water is cold

 

[wildchild]

Global warming is posing such wide-ranging risks to humanity, involving so many types of phenomena, that by the end of this century some parts of the world could face as many as six climate-related crises at the same time, researchers say.

This chilling prospect is described in a paper published Monday in Nature Climate Change, a respected academic journal, that shows the effects of climate change across a broad spectrum of problems, including heat waves, wildfires, sea level rise, hurricanes, flooding, drought and shortages of clean water.

Such problems are already coming in combination, said the lead author, Camilo Mora of the University of Hawaii at Manoa. He noted that Florida had recently experienced extreme drought, record high temperatures and wildfires — and also Hurricane Michael, the powerful Category 4 storm that slammed into the Panhandle last month. Similarly, California is suffering through the worst wildfires the state has ever seen, as well as drought, extreme heat waves and degraded air quality that threatens the health of residents.

Things will get worse, the authors wrote. The paper projects future trends and suggests that, by 2100, unless humanity takes forceful action to curb the greenhouse gas emissions that drive climate change, some tropical coastal areas of the planet, like the Atlantic coast of South and Central America, could be hit by as many as six crises at a time.

You people blast Trump for fear mongering then post garbage like this. Amazing.

Futurecurrents = clown who wants everyone else to moderate their CO2 emissions but fails to moderate his own

 

[Cuddles]

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/env...ironmentalists-contributing-wildfires-n938671

But Zenke told me to just chop the trees down and avoid fires that way?

 

[WeToddDid2]

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/env...ironmentalists-contributing-wildfires-n938671

But Zenke told me to just chop the trees down and avoid fires that way?

http://cliffmass.blogspot.com

Was Global Warming A Significant Factor in California's Camp Fire? The Answer is Clearly No.

One of the most popular handwaving arguments about why global warming is enhancing wildfires is through temperature and precipitation changes. It is argued that warming temperatures are causing more evaporation and thus drying the "fuels" at the surface. And it is argued that global warming is causing increasing drought that dries fuels and encourages fires.

Now this sounds reasonable enough on the surface, but when you examine the facts more closely, it rapidly becomes clear that global warming has little role in producing the dry conditions that assisted the Camp Fire, the wine country fires, or the fires in coastal southern CA.

The truth is that California is quite dry during nearly half of the year and that fuels such as grasses, bushes and small vegetation dry out during any typical summer. Even more important, virtually all of the fires noted above (including the Camp Fire) were associated with offshore, downslope winds which rapidly dry out vegetation, even it is wet the day before!

In summary, if one analyzes the situation, it is evident that global warming had little to do with the Camp Fire.

As I will discuss in a future blog, the Paradise area was a ticking time bomb. There was a huge influx of population into a wildland area, which had burned many times in the past. Previously logging and fires had left a conduit of highly flammable grass and bushes, through which fire could move rapidly. Flammable, non-native invasive grasses had spread through the region. Homes were not built to withstand fire and roadways were inadequate for evacuation. Powerlines started the fires and were not de-energized even though strong winds were skillfully forecast. Warnings to the population were inadequate. The list is long. And global warming should not be on the list if we are to focus on the real problems.

 

[Cuddles]

 

[futurecurrents]

It is possible man is affecting climate, but it is clearly not via our CO2 emission. Nevertheless, for other reasons, we should explore alternative sources of energy.

And still, of course, not a single quote from a publishing climate scientist denying man made global warming. Still no facts, just hot air.

You are pathetic.

Very clearly man is causing global warming and literally every expert on earth agrees. CO2 is certainly a greenhouse gas and we have certainly caused it to rise by 40%, certainly temps are rapidly rising, and clearly you are fucked up for some reason. A stroke? Age? Working for a think tank? Shear ignorance?

Here, maybe somehow you have missed all the science and evidence and common sense logic behind it. I suggest that you read this....

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

 

[futurecurrents]

Agree. It is arrogance and hubris that make anyone think that they can control Earth's climate.

Yet every expert and science orginization on earth thinks otherwise. Gee maybe you should tell them. https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

Or maybe you think God controls it all. Of course you do.. LOL

 

[Cuddles]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ener...country/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9267d05b1de5

Major Trump administration climate report says damages are ‘intensifying across the country’

Scientists are more certain than ever that climate change is already affecting the United States — and that it is going to be very expensive.

 

[futurecurrents]

http://cliffmass.blogspot.com

Was Global Warming A Significant Factor in California's Camp Fire? The Answer is Clearly No.

One of the most popular handwaving arguments about why global warming is enhancing wildfires is through temperature and precipitation changes. It is argued that warming temperatures are causing more evaporation and thus drying the "fuels" at the surface. And it is argued that global warming is causing increasing drought that dries fuels and encourages fires.

Now this sounds reasonable enough on the surface, but when you examine the facts more closely, it rapidly becomes clear that global warming has little role in producing the dry conditions that assisted the Camp Fire, the wine country fires, or the fires in coastal southern CA.

The truth is that California is quite dry during nearly half of the year and that fuels such as grasses, bushes and small vegetation dry out during any typical summer. Even more important, virtually all of the fires noted above (including the Camp Fire) were associated with offshore, downslope winds which rapidly dry out vegetation, even it is wet the day before!

In summary, if one analyzes the situation, it is evident that global warming had little to do with the Camp Fire.

As I will discuss in a future blog, the Paradise area was a ticking time bomb. There was a huge influx of population into a wildland area, which had burned many times in the past. Previously logging and fires had left a conduit of highly flammable grass and bushes, through which fire could move rapidly. Flammable, non-native invasive grasses had spread through the region. Homes were not built to withstand fire and roadways were inadequate for evacuation. Powerlines started the fires and were not de-energized even though strong winds were skillfully forecast. Warnings to the population were inadequate. The list is long. And global warming should not be on the list if we are to focus on the real problems.

Did GW cause the fire? No. But it is making fires there more likely and encouraging larger fires that move faster. Again, it's just common sense.

 

[TJustice]

Let me explain something... this is a very complex subject.
Recent models suggest ... "cooler and wetter weather in the same region, when associated with El Niño events, would likely become even cooler and even wetter in the future, enhancing flood risks."

This should also mean more growth... and therefore more fire risk in the fall.

https://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=296344


Now... mind you, in my experience the El Nino years have far more rain and far more storms and bigger waves than La nina. The massive mud slides have occurred during el nino years a.


So frankly...your common sense means nothing because these scientists and their models don't seem to line up with our experience in So Cal at all. So was our experience and aberration. Are these models limited in the understanding.

What I can tell you this that if the scientists are correct warming would be drier hence less fire risk. (not that I believe it.)

But, I can tell you... your common sense living in Brooklyn means nothing.

Did GW cause the fire? No. But it is making fires there more likely and encouraging larger fires that move faster. Again, it's just common sense.