Liberals Now Calling For Obama Birth Cert

Quote from Range Rover:

No,your party just doesn't want its racism exposed.

Great! Now given your logic above, explain this since you couldn't the last time you tried:

In the south, where conservatives are equated with 'a bunch of racist rednecks' by their detractors, Tim Scott was enthusiastically elected to Congress in South Carolina, as was Allen West in Florida. Similarly, Marco Rubio was elected to the Senate from Florida in a runaway.
 
Quote from bugscoe:

Great! Now given your logic above, explain this since you couldn't the last time you tried:

In the south, where conservatives are equated with 'a bunch of racist rednecks' by their detractors, Tim Scott was enthusiastically elected to Congress in South Carolina, as was Allen West in Florida. Similarly, Marco Rubio was elected to the Senate from Florida in a runaway.

As I said,2 black GOP Congressmen out of 284 proves that the republican party aren't full of racists :cool:
 
Quote from Range Rover:

Wow,in all of Congress the GOP has 2 african american members,that proves they arent racists :cool:

A Cuban won a Senate seat in the state with largest Cuban population .That also proves they aren't racist :cool:

Explain this:

"Here's a statistic to pore over this Thanksgiving weekend: In 2011, there will be more Republican minorities holding governorships, Senate seats and representing majority-white House districts than Democrats.

There are only 18 elected officials who fit that category -- 10 Republican, eight Democratic. Republicans got a major diversity boost from the midterms, seeing their ranks of minorities expand from one (Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal) to nine, with the elections of Govs.-elect Susana Martinez (R-N.M.), Nikki Haley (R-S.C.), Brian Sandoval (R-Nev.), Sen.-elect Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Reps.-elect Jaime Herrera (R-Wash.), Bill Flores (R-Texas), Raul Labrador (R-Idaho), Allen West (R-Fla.) and Tim Scott (R-S.C.).

Gov. Deval Patrick (D-Mass.) heads the Democratic list of minority elected officials winning white voters, along with Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii), Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) -- and Reps. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.), Andre Carson (D-Ind.) and David Wu (D-Ore.).

Overall, the clear majority of minorities in Congress are Democrats. But the numbers above reflect an inconvenient reality that, even with their much more diverse caucus, Democrats face similar challenges as Republicans in recruiting, nominating and electing minority candidates to statewide office and in suburban and rural districts that are majority-white. The vast majority of Congressional Black Caucus and Congressional Hispanic Caucus members hail from urban districts where it doesn't require a crossover vote to win, or represent gerrymandered seats designed to elect a minority member of Congress. They are markedly more liberal than the average Democrat, no less the average voter, making it more difficult for them to successfully mount a statewide campaign.
 
Quote from Range Rover:

I'm no lawyer,but when federal judges are dismissing birther cases as frivolous and as a waste of the courts time I doubt they have any merits...except in the minds of the birthers

Did you know that birther lawyers are getting reprimanded, fined thousands of dollars,and being called delusional ?






Hollister v. Soetoro

On March 5, 2009, a lawsuit filed by Philip Berg on behalf of Gregory S. Hollister, a retired Air Force colonel, against Barack Obama (referenced as "Barry Soetoro", the name given at the time of his enrollment in an Indonesian elementary school). The suit was dismissed in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. The presiding judge, James Robertson, said the case was a waste of the court's time, calling Berg and another lawyer "agents provocateurs" and their local counsel, John Hemenway, "a foot soldier in their crusade." He ordered Hemenway to show cause why he should not pay the legal fees for Obama's attorney as a penalty for filing a complaint "for an improper purpose such as to harass".[180] The district court ultimately reprimanded Hemenway for his actions, and the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit upheld the dismissal of the case and Hemenway's reprimand.


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Rhodes v. Macdonald

In September 2009, Taitz, on behalf of Captain Connie Rhodes, a U.S. Army physician, sought a restraining order to stop Rhodes' forthcoming deployment to Iraq. In the request for a restraining order, Taitz argued the order was illegal since Obama was illegally serving as President. On September 16, federal judge Clay D. Land rejected the motion and denounced it as frivolous.



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On October 13, 2009, Judge Clay Land ordered "Counsel Orly Taitz ... to pay $20,000 to the United States, through the Middle District of Georgia Clerk's Office, within thirty days of the date of this Order as a sanction for her misconduct
in violation of Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure." Land's decision stated:



The Court finds that counsel's conduct was willful and not merely negligent. It demonstrates bad faith on her part. As an attorney, she is deemed to have known better. She owed a duty to follow the rules and to respect the Court. Counsel's pattern of conduct conclusively establishes that she did not mistakenly violate a provision of law. She knowingly violated Rule 11. Her response to the Court's show cause order is breathtaking in its arrogance and borders on delusional. She expresses no contrition or regret regarding her misconduct. To the contrary, she continues her baseless attacks on the Court.[199]

you are correct you are no lawyer.

It has been a while since I read those cases, but i am pretty sure those were thrown out for procedural reasons with a bunch of liberal judge grandstanding in the end.

if you wish to show I am wrong, you need to show some sort of trial or summary adjudication of the issues.

Which I am sure you will not produce.
 
Quote from Range Rover:

As I said,2 black GOP Congressmen out of 284 proves that the republican party aren't full of racists :cool:

Yes or No, Is Harry Ried a racist for saying this: "light-skinned' African American 'with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one,"

Yes or No, Is Joe Biden a racist for saying this: "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy… I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
 
Quote from jem:

you are correct you are no lawyer.

It has been a while since I read those cases, but i am pretty sure those were thrown out for procedural reasons with a bunch of liberal judge grandstanding in the end.

if you wish to show I am wrong, you need to show some sort of trial or summary adjudication of the issues.

Which I am sure you will not produce.

You might be a lawyer,but so is Orly Taitz and the guy who got Col Linken 6 months in jail and kicked out of the Army

You say those cases were kicked out due to procedural reasons please post something to back that up.The Judges said the cases were frivolous and a waste of the courts time
 
Quote from bugscoe:

Explain this:

"Here's a statistic to pore over this Thanksgiving weekend: In 2011, there will be more Republican minorities holding governorships, Senate seats and representing majority-white House districts than Democrats.

There are only 18 elected officials who fit that category -- 10 Republican, eight Democratic. Republicans got a major diversity boost from the midterms, seeing their ranks of minorities expand from one (Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal) to nine, with the elections of Govs.-elect Susana Martinez (R-N.M.), Nikki Haley (R-S.C.), Brian Sandoval (R-Nev.), Sen.-elect Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Reps.-elect Jaime Herrera (R-Wash.), Bill Flores (R-Texas), Raul Labrador (R-Idaho), Allen West (R-Fla.) and Tim Scott (R-S.C.).


Correct if I'm wrong,but I only see 2 black people on that list:confused:
 
Quote from Range Rover:

You might be a lawyer,but so is Orly Taitz and the guy who got Col Linken 6 months in jail and kicked out of the Army

You say those cases were kicked out due to procedural reasons please post something to back that up.The Judges said the cases were frivolous and a waste of the courts time


read the cases for yourself and then give us a link to a decision after a summary judgment motion, or a judgment after a trial.


If you do not know enough about the law to support your argument then do not try to pretend you have a reason for saying the cases were decided on their merits.

I am stating that when I did the research, I never saw that a court reviewed of the facts or made decision after a trial.

but, if you know otherwise, produce a link.
 
Quote from bugscoe:

Explain this:

"Here's a statistic to pore over this Thanksgiving weekend: In 2011, there will be more Republican minorities holding governorships, Senate seats and representing majority-white House districts than Democrats.

There are only 18 elected officials who fit that category -- 10 Republican, eight Democratic. Republicans got a major diversity boost from the midterms, seeing their ranks of minorities expand from one (Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal) to nine, with the elections of Govs.-elect Susana Martinez (R-N.M.), Nikki Haley (R-S.C.), Brian Sandoval (R-Nev.), Sen.-elect Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Reps.-elect Jaime Herrera (R-Wash.), Bill Flores (R-Texas), Raul Labrador (R-Idaho), Allen West (R-Fla.) and Tim Scott (R-S.C.).

Gov. Deval Patrick (D-Mass.) heads the Democratic list of minority elected officials winning white voters, along with Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii), Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) -- and Reps. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.), Andre Carson (D-Ind.) and David Wu (D-Ore.).

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The writer could have listed the 50 + black democrats who were in congress when they wrote this.(Could have also mentioned a black democratic President ).The writer could have also mentioned that when they wrote this the GOP didn't have any black Congressmen.
 
Quote from jem:

read the cases for yourself

I read that 2 federal judges called the birther cases frivolous,a waste of the courts time,reprimanded 1 birther lawyer and fined another birther lawyer 20,000.

Another birther lawyer got their client 6 months in jail in a birther case
 
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