Liberal nurse raises middle finger to America one week before midterms

[Ricter]

I don't want to rely on your medical skills thank you very much. For one thing nobody can tell what is fact and what you just make up.

I want reasonable precautions in place so that self-indulgent idiots who would expose others rather whimsically cannot do so. Liberals said we would never be in this position and they were clearly and horribly wrong. Its time for the adults to act.

The adults are the ones using reason to react to this challenge. Your "50 days" is more likely made up than the information in my CDC reference.

At the end of the day, the only "position" liberals are in is that they stuck up for science-based problem solving.

 

[377OHMS]

Obola Survives on Surfaces for up to 50 days: http://www.naturalnews.com/047442_Ebola_aerosol_transmission_surface_contamination.html

"Research published in the Journal of Applied Microbiology back in 2010 is upsetting the official story regarding Ebola, which government officials claim cannot be spread through contaminated surfaces. Scientists from the Biomedical Sciences Department at the Defense Science and Technology Laboratory in the UK found that, contrary to mainstream claims, Ebola can survive for up to 50 days on dried surfaces, specifically on cold glass."

 

[377OHMS]

The adults are the ones using reason to react to this challenge. Your "50 days" is more likely made up than the information in my CDC reference.

At the end of the day, the only "position" liberals are in is that they stuck up for science-based problem solving.

The CDC has endangered the country it is charged to protect. It is a political organization no more interested in the welfare of US citizens than the IRS.

 

[Ricter]

Obola Survives on Surfaces for up to 50 days: http://www.naturalnews.com/047442_Ebola_aerosol_transmission_surface_contamination.html

"Research published in the Journal of Applied Microbiology back in 2010 is upsetting the official story regarding Ebola, which government officials claim cannot be spread through contaminated surfaces. Scientists from the Biomedical Sciences Department at the Defense Science and Technology Laboratory in the UK found that, contrary to mainstream claims, Ebola can survive for up to 50 days on dried surfaces, specifically on cold glass."

Ok, fair enough. But persons still have to be symptomatic for some time to have virus particles in their bodily fluids.

"Contagiousness low at onset of fever
"Both MSF and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention require their returning staff who have treated or been in contact with Ebola patients check their own temperature twice a day. That check will be confirmed by daily phone calls from their local public health department.

"Temperature monitoring is critical because fever is the first indication of infection.

"Tropical disease specialist Dr. Richard Olds says when someone with Ebola first exhibits symptoms, they are not especially contagious. (University of California Riverside)

"Before someone carrying the Ebola virus has a fever or other symptoms, they cannot spread the disease. And the disease is only transmitted through contaminated bodily fluids, such as blood or vomit.

"Even when someone with Ebola first exhibits symptoms, they are not especially contagious, tropical disease specialist Dr. Richard Olds tells CBC News.

"When a person develops a viral disease, "in the beginning they have relatively few viral particles in their body or even in their secretions," says Olds, who is dean of the school of medicine at the University of California, Riverside.

"As someone becomes ill, the virus is multiplying in their body. After five or six days, they are highly contagious if there is a transfer of bodily fluid. "That's a different situation than the situation when a person is asymptomatic, during the incubation period, and even the situation where the person just developed the fever."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/ebola-quarantines-in-u-s-are-they-warranted-1.2812730

 

[377OHMS]

"Tropical disease specialist Dr. Richard Olds says when someone with Ebola first exhibits symptoms, they are not especially contagious. (University of California Riverside)"

Not especially contagious. Wow.

That is why a firewall has been introduced. Staying home for 21 days is a simple act of citizenship that may provide some actual protection and will certainly help neighbors and/or co-workers of the traveler to remain calm and continue to show up for work and not be afraid to send their kids to school. If you fail to implement any type of reasonable precaution you are promoting panic and confusion.

Instead of voluntary quarantine it may end up being mandatory because of this liberal nurse. If she won't do the right thing then I expect that the governor of Maine probably will.

 

[Ricter]

Not especially contagious. Wow.

That is why a firewall has been introduced. Staying home for 21 days is a simple act of citizenship that may provide some actual protection and will certainly help neighbors and/or co-workers of the traveler to remain calm and continue to show up for work and not be afraid to send their kids to school. If you fail to implement any type of reasonable precaution you are promoting panic and confusion.

Instead of voluntary quarantine it may end up being mandatory because of this liberal nurse. If she won't do the right thing then I expect that the governor of Maine probably will.

That's a point, "not especially". I read that and I think the risk is low, while you read it and think the risk is high.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Any good will this woman had coming has been completely eroded by her self centered attitude. She could have complied and come out of this looking good, better than good. Instead when her 15 minutes is up she'll be remembered as just another elitist cunt who thought she was above it all. Dime a dozen. Not really worth anymore ink.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Obola Survives on Surfaces for up to 50 days: http://www.naturalnews.com/047442_Ebola_aerosol_transmission_surface_contamination.html

"Research published in the Journal of Applied Microbiology back in 2010 is upsetting the official story regarding Ebola, which government officials claim cannot be spread through contaminated surfaces. Scientists from the Biomedical Sciences Department at the Defense Science and Technology Laboratory in the UK found that, contrary to mainstream claims, Ebola can survive for up to 50 days on dried surfaces, specifically on cold glass."

I'm going to have to research this and ping a few friends on it. Ebola is an RNA virus that requires a cellular host (it develops in the cytoplasm) to survive, and that would mean that human cells could survive outside the body on cold surface for up to 50 days? I don't know about this - but I can't refute it without seeing the study. I'll get back to you.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Here is the study, in case anyone wants to read it.

Some things to point out as I peruse it. First, ZEBOV is Ebola Zaire - a different phenotype than what we're currently dealing with. Ebola Sudan is much less virulent and has been shown to be difficult - if next to impossible to recover from surfaces in the same manner in which the test was applied, and was therefore disqualified from the study. That's an important thing to understand. Ebola Sudan isn't necessarily what we have now either, it appears we might have a new phenotype. But this strain has closer virulence to Sudan.

But let's stick with ZEBOV. The study clearly states that ZEBOV could be recovered from cellular structure when suspended in liquid - not on surface contact - for up to 46 days. Essentially they prepared a solution meant for live cultures and wanted to see how long it would survive in this culture absent the body keeping it alive. Unless people are leaving vials of test tubes out there for others to pick up and drink or douse themselves with - this part of the study is completely and totally irrelevant for any discussion regarding day to day transmission.

On to hard surfaces - the time for retrieval on hard surfaces according to the study is much less - just over 14 days. Again, this is ZEBOV, not SEBOV, but that's fine, let's continue.

In the first test, ZEBOV could not be recovered from any substrate at any time. Metal substrate yielded no recovery at any time in any experiment. On glass or plastic, ZEBOV (and Marburg) could be recovered from tissue culture that had been preserved on the substance for examination. This is quite different than someone sneezing or coughing on a window out in the open. In fact, it's not even in the same solar system of likelihood.

To close, the fact that the virus can be recovered through experimentation does not yield it's infective ability per se, but obvious caution is warranted.

Let's just make sure we understand what the study showed, and not just follow with what Natural News has said. That site has been the origination of a number of questionable medical articles over the years.

 

[377OHMS]

A liberal judge this morning knocked down any attempt to make this women comply with a quarantine. She is basically free to do what she wants.

Liberals are evidently not interested in your safety and they've got the lawyers to back it up. Vote accordingly.