LGBT - Terror

Apparently the left is in agreement that a person cannot yell fire in a theater, but if a Muslim stands up and screams Allah Akbar, kill all the infidels, that's protected by the 1st amendment and nothing can be done until he actually starts shooting people. You fucking people are nuts.
 
When that Root kid shot up a black church, the left immediately amped up its cultural cleansing campaign against any and all artifacts of Southern heritage. Not just Confederate flags, but even schools and streets named for Confederate heroes, monuments to the dead etc.

When it's murderous muslim terrorists however, they walk on eggshells.
The Confederate Flag is a symbol of an unfortunate period in American history. It has no place in current America except among those who long for that time and all of the inequity that it represents. That is not a statement about all Southerners, just about the unacceptability of what now stands for divisiveness and hate. Similarly, I don't think jihadi flags are being tolerated much in America. Am I mistaken? And that would not be a statement about all Muslims, just about that element that stands for divisiveness and hate.

Is that string so hard for you to follow?
 
On that basis, Australia and vast areas of the United States should have never been populated. Outlaws,criminals, knuckleheads, and religious extremists who stood ready to kill for their believes. Unfortunately, the father did not deliver a handwritten message aside with his immigration application stating that he was some sort of extremist (whatever that actually means in this particular case). So, that does not seem to solve any of the problems either. Or is your suggestion to keep everyone out from Pakistan, Afghanistan, and the Middle East ex Israel going forward?

His parents were afghan immigrants. His father is some sort of radical extremist, etc. You let them in, they have kids, raise them to be jihadis, etc and then of course they get to bring in their entire extended families through the madness of chain migration.

We have had three recent terrorist attacks, Boston marathon bombing, San Bernadino shooting and this. All by muslims, all either immigrants or first generation offspring.

When that Root kid shot up a black church, the left immediately amped up its cultural cleansing campaign against any and all artifacts of Southern heritage. Not just Confederate flags, but even schools and streets named for Confederate heroes, monuments to the dead etc.

When it's murderous muslim terrorists however, they walk on eggshells. The Washington Post opined this morning that this was the result of intolerance towards gays, ie blame family values groups, lax gun laws, of course, and our failure to make muslims feel sufficiently accepted.

Their recommendation is to let's be more accepting of muslims and restrict gun rights for law-abiding Americans whose families came over on the Mayflower. Oh yeah, I'm sure they will want to have more and bigger government agencies monitoring us. Just no profiling please.
 
So you lefties are saying it's not possible for our glorious government to stop a suspected terrorist from purchasing a weapon because we can't/won't create a list that would pop up during a routine background check?
That's how the Second Amendment law presently stands. They can have a list and they can check it twice. But they can't legally prevent a gun purchase by someone not nice. Your piss and vinegar is warranted, just misguided. You're angry at the wrong people.
 
Can you contrast for a moment how many non Muslims killed others in the US last year with assault weapons vs Muslims? Do you honestly think the main problem here is extremist Muslims?

So you lefties are saying it's not possible for our glorious government to stop a suspected terrorist from purchasing a weapon because we can't/won't create a list that would pop up during a routine background check? How is this such a stretch to do? This is going to cost millions upon millions of dollars to do? Why? OH YEAH, we're talking about the government. Admit it, law enforcement was hamstrung by the PC police on this one. Can't profile a suspected terrorist. Might offend someone.
 
We have a very clear message to our elected representatives regarding our gun rights. No compromises, not one damn inch.

The progressives have one goal, total confiscation of all privately owned firearms, except maybe for their personal security details. Any compromise on things like "assault" weapons, mag sizes etc, takes us one step closer to their goal. They are never going to say ok, we promise, if you give up these rights that's it, we will never ask for more. It's always the slippery slope with these people, and if you don't believe me, consider the gay rights agenda and how that went from "we just want to be left alone" to you lose your job if you don't fully endorse perverts parading around in girls' locker rooms.

We have a very simple and effective solution that will at least stop the problem form getting even worse, and that is to stop the vast majority of muslim immigration. We can make exceptions here and there but certainly no refugee resettlements. No more family unification either. You miss your family? Go back to the old country and join them.

We also need to stop regarding mosques as somehow off limits to law enforcement. Some of them are clearly the key point for radical recruitment. That is a criminal enterprise and should result in the mosque being closed and seized. I'm sure Hillary's Saudi backers will be furious. F them.
 
perfect example you gave. The right to operate a car is only bestowed on those who pass a driving test, verbal and practical. And if they are caught driving illegally, drunk, texting, speeding, then steep fines are imposed. Can all accidents that may lead up to deaths be avoided? Certainly not, but still everyone gets to drive around relatively freely. Now, if the same screening and examination could be applied to anyone wanting to purchase a new firearm then we would already have made tremendous progress.

P.S.: Nobody asked you nor should have the right to ask you to surrender your regular firearms by the way.

I don't disagree with that in any way. Don't we have laws to prevent such harm? I don't believe the intent of the fathers was to take freedoms from some based on the actions of others, which in my opinion, falls under the same exact statement above.

Let me give you a different type of example, but there are fundamental similarities. Should I have my car taken away or be forced to drive a vehicle that may not meet my personal wishes or needs because other people are too stupid to put their texting device down while driving, and are killing more people than drunk drivers (you can include drunk drivers, too)?
 
Can you contrast for a moment how many non Muslims killed others in the US last year with assault weapons vs Muslims? Do you honestly think the main problem here is extremist Muslims?
I think the main problem is criminals/gangs, most of them black and Hispanic, using these weapons, and Muslim terrorists and our cowardly approach to dealing with the problem. Add up all the people killed by some crazy white guy with a gun doesn't even make a weekend of killing in Chicago. You want to focus on the what. I want to focus on the who. Thugs, gangs, criminals and apparent leftist don't like profiling. Profiling works, which is why they don't like it.
 
Can you contrast for a moment how many non Muslims killed others in the US last year with assault weapons vs Muslims? Do you honestly think the main problem here is extremist Muslims?

Do you have such data because I'd like to see it? Anyway, we are addressing one specific issue, terrorism, more accurately islamic terrorism which, unlike demented individual cases like the Charleston shooter, is a worldwide phenomenon that is supported by large scale terror groups and widely approved of by muslims in general.

The AR15 style rifle is the single most popular weapon sold in the Untied States. It is hard to argue that it is not considered the mainstream home defense weapon. Functionally it is identical to a semi auto hunting rifle. Banning them would be denying law-abiding citizens the most effective defense weapon available to them. Rather than undermine the Second Amendment, there are less restrictive methods of limiting terrorism. Severely curtailing muslim immigration is the most obvious.
 
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