Let's get real about prison abuse

Well, believe it or not . . . Brig. General Janice Karpinsky is now laying blame on the brass above her, namely General Ricardo Sanchez and General Jeffrey Miller in a news article printed in the Washington Post today. This should get real interesting . . . Stay tuned.

"Taguba testified that friction arose between Karpinski and Pappas when Pappas was put in charge of Abu Ghraib last November. Taguba said the move, ordered by Sanchez, violated Army doctrine by making military police subordinate to interrogators."
 
Quote from waggie945:

Excuse me, but when did Iraq become a terrorist threat to the United States . . . before we invaded their country, or AFTER we invaded their country when all of the muslim extremists and insurgents arrived from Syria and Saudi Arabia to fuck with our trips and contractors?

Also, please feel free to tell all of us what the "connection" was between the "911 Hijackers" and IRAQ, especially since 16 of the 19 terrorist hijackers were Saudi Nationals.

You are without a doubt, one of the biggest morons on ET.
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...Using your logic, we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan because they were Saudi nationals??? Really, you problem is that you are not only dumb and naive about legitimate threats in the world, but you are without a doubt incapable of rationale thought........if muslim extremist are flocking to Iraq to fight American troops that overthrew a rogue muslin dictator......why is this bad???? Would you prefer we fight this fight on the streets of NY city like was previously done on 9-11? Go back to plowing your wife in the ass and worrying about California......Wow....you have posted almost three times without a reference to California!!!!
 
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...Using your logic, we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan because they were Saudi nationals??? Really, you problem is that you are not only dumb and naive about legitimate threats in the world, but you are without a doubt incapable of rationale thought........if muslim extremist are flocking to Iraq to fight American troops that overthrew a rogue muslin dictator......why is this bad???? Would you prefer we fight this fight on the streets of NY city like was previously done on 9-11? Go back to plowing your wife in the ass and worrying about California......Wow....you have posted almost three times without a reference to California!!!!
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actually the current government didn't fight a s***t on 9/11, they did not even send 1 I mean 1 militar chopper or jet above Manhattan, 18 minutes between the two collisions and no 1 f*****g jet.
Don't get me started...

In Italy when a nut decided to hit the Pirelli skyscraper with a piper there was a full sky of militar planes in 5 minutes....
 
We do a great job of "invading" other countries and trying to Nation-State build, but we do a terrible job of patrolling are very own borders and airspace.


But hey, let's spend another $25 billion in Iraq so we can make sure that they have good roads and post offices with zipcodes!
 
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Look at those big, bad, disgraceful American troops. How dare they humiliate these prisoners the way they did. This is "inhuman", "hard to believe", and "disgusting". Why don't they behave the normal way and drag their captives' corpses on the streets of Baghdad after beheading them?
These limp-wristed, half-dicked liberals were right all along - Americans are BAAAAAAAD. What a disgrace!
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So you approve of rape and child abuse? Are you some kind of paedophile or sexual pervert?

I've already pointed out that the fact that someone else has committed and even worse crime in no way excuses the actions of a lesser criminal. Your continued refusal to acknowledge that fact shows that you are either you are blind, wilfully ignorant, or just plain stupid. Take your pick - whichever answer you give, the fact is that you're still an apologist for paedophilia, rape, and torture. Guys like you are the reason why the Hitlers and Stalins of this world could get away with what they did.
 
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actually the current government didn't fight a s***t on 9/11, they did not even send 1 I mean 1 military chopper or jet above Manhattan, 18 minutes between the two collisions and no 1 f*****g jet.
Don't get me started...

In Italy when a nut decided to hit the Pirelli skyscraper with a piper there was a full sky of military planes in 5 minutes....
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lmao!!!! ..get real.....a military jet is going to get up there and blow the plane out of the sky and you are ok with this???? Please...the bottom line is that war was waged on our soil....now its being waged on theirs.....is this bad to you? You really believe that if a military Jet had blown a 737 with 300 passengers out of the sky over the hudson before it hits a building that this is a good thing and is not war being waged none the less????
 
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...Using your logic, we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan because they were Saudi nationals??? Really, you problem is that you are not only dumb and naive about legitimate threats in the world, but you are without a doubt incapable of rationale thought........if muslim extremist are flocking to Iraq to fight American troops that overthrew a rogue muslin dictator......why is this bad???? Would you prefer we fight this fight on the streets of NY city like was previously done on 9-11? Go back to plowing your wife in the ass and worrying about California......Wow....you have posted almost three times without a reference to California!!!!
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Invading Afghanistan may have had just a little bit to do with the presence and harbouring of a certain Mr O. Bin Laden.

Do you really think that waggie and others *opposed* the attack on a rogue terrorist state that had funded, haboured, and encouraged those responsible for 9/11? Get a grip, please - we are trying to have a serious discussion here, and nonsensical schoolboy jibes such as yours do nothing to contribute.
 
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