Leslie Marshall: Biden's in for 2020 -- Here's why he'll make Trump a one-term president

If you ask Willie where Kamala's "center of energy" is he can probably tell ya.

The so-called “Justice democrats” are the Bernie group that got Occasio-Cortez elected. They ran like 49 primary challenges, won 7 and only won 1 in the general, the Fox News famous AOC.
 
LOL, the same people who hate the idea of an "old white guy" in many cases have no problem with old Bernie.


Yeh, it's complicated.

Hillary bitched about how lots of women were older and just did what their husbands told them to do so they voted for Trump. Meanwhile, all/most/many of the younger generation hip, educated, liberated women that she though she owned, voted for Bernie. oops.

Similarly, she accused the Michigan, Wisconsin voters of being mostly deplorables who would never vote for a woman, a black, a whatever- totally overlooking the fact that they had voted for Obama twice- a guy who is semi-black.

Gonna be some serious nude mud wrestling between the old white guys in this race- Trump, Bernie, Biden. I know everyone is on a Biden-high today, but I would not underestimate Bernie. This is his last hurrah and he is going to the very, very end and will yield nothing until he is dead on the field. Not saying he will get the nom but absolutely do not expect him to play nice with Biden just because they are old DC buddies.
 
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The so-called justice democrats see themselves as “the center of energy” on the left but they are a bunch of losers.

I dunno. Remains to be seen.

Certainly the evidence so far is that if the far left says they want to see something, most of the dem candidates are parroting it within a very short period of time.

You can argue that Biden has not done that, but Biden has not really stated any policies or entered the fray yet, including today. He shows a video in the morning and then goes out to a restaurant to get some food to go and brings it home for the rest of the day. Such is his roll-out. Biden has hired some far lefties, but as I said, he has not done or said much of anything yet so if you want to argue that he is not influenced by them, well, you probably can do that for at least another day or two. Who the hell knows what he thinks these days. We know from the polls that they recognize his name more than the others, that is about it.

and of course some of his advisors might be saying one thing these days but really thinking something else.
Biden senior adviser: We don't need white men leading the Democratic Party


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...t-need-white-men-leading-the-democratic-party
 
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It isn't lost on me that Ms. Marshall dismisses all of the #metoo allegations on Biden with lame excuses that - if used to defend Kavanaugh - would have been laughed at. But since Joe is a Democrat, they'll be ignored. However, after seeing the poll data (for what poll data is worth at this point) today announcing Biden has an 8 point advantage over Trump out of the gate I can't help but wonder if there are so many people out there just looking for someone relatively middle of the road that they can rely on to bring back some civility into politics. It is because of that philosophy (bring back normalcy) that if the election were held today, I'd vote Biden and not Trump.

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The endless “will he or won’t he” speculation is over. Former Vice President Joe Biden finally announced Thursday, via video, that he is running for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020 – and that’s a good thing.

I know a lot of people will disagree. They wonder how “Creepy Joe” – as some of his critics have dubbed him – can win his party’s nomination in the age of the #MeToo movement, after accusations that he’s been inappropriately “touchy” with women over the years.

First, let’s take a look at the women who have accused Biden of inappropriate contact.

When I was on “Fox News At Night” with Shannon Bream recently, even staunch conservative Dinesh D'Souza was leery of the timing of the first woman’s accusation.

Lucy Flores, the first woman to come forward, stated that while running for lieutenant governor in the state of Nevada, then-Vice President Biden allegedly smelled her hair and gave her a "big slow kiss" on the back of her head. In that moment, she wrote, she felt “embarrassed” and “shocked.”

None of Biden’s staff members remember the event as Flores has reported it, and many, on both the left and right, questioned Ms. Flores’ intentions, as she used to work for and support Senator Bernie Sanders. She also worked for a Sanders PAC after he lost the Democratic nomination. Laura Ingraham suggested Flores may have spoken out because she’d prefer a woman as the Democratic nominee for president rather than a man.

In response, Biden claimed that he had no memory of having “acted inappropriately,” but added that if he was in the wrong, he would “listen respectfully.”

Amy Lappos, a former aide to Congressman Jim Himes, D-Conn., claimed that Biden rubbed his nose against hers during a political fundraiser. She said “it wasn’t sexual” and did not report the incident.

Writer D.J. Hill said Biden put his hand on her shoulder and then down her back at a 2012 fundraiser. She admits she did not know his intent, but the incident made her feel uncomfortable.

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Caitlyn Caruso felt Biden hugged her a bit too long at an event in Nevada focused on sexual harassment – after she had shared her story of being sexually assaulted.

Ally Coll, a Democratic staffer when she met Biden in 2008, said he squeezed her shoulders, complimented her smile and held her for a beat too long.

Sofie Karasek felt Biden “invaded her personal space” when they were forehead to forehead in a photo from the 2016 Oscars that went viral. Karasek was part of a group of 51 sexual assault survivors who appeared onstage with Lady Gaga.

Vail Kohnert-Yount claims she was a White House intern in 2013 when Biden pushed her forehead to his and called her a pretty girl.

Now I want to be clear. As a woman, I feel all women should be believed. But there are even strong conservatives who question the timing of these accusations. And it must be noted that none of the women who have felt ‘uncomfortable’ with former Vice President Biden have alleged sexual misconduct or touching that was sexual in nature.

Biden is also the only one running who can beat Trump at his own game. In a debate, if Trump lurks behind him as he did to Hillary Clinton, I could see Joe using the president as a prop, making light of it rather than ignore it (as Hillary did).

It also must be noted that there have multiple accusations of sexual assault against President Trump – dozens, by some reports – two of which are currently making their way through the courts. And there is of course that “Access Hollywood” tape with his infamous “grab em by the ….” remark. In spite of all those accusations, he was elected president.

There are those who feel that Biden will not be able to get and keep the female vote. I disagree.

Polls show that for independent female voters, 6 out of 10 view President Trump unfavorably. Even his support among Republican women has dropped over 20 points. And among women who were central to the president’s victory in 2016 – white women who don’t hold college degrees – more are now saying they strongly disapprove of him.

Now Joe does have other problems – all candidates do. His handling of the Anita Hill accusations against then-Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas, for one. His recent praise of Vice President Mike Pence followed by a quick back-peddling when actress and political activist Cynthia Nixon called him out on it.

Here is how I think he should handle these issues in order to get around them and truly be forgiven by the party:

- He must personally apologize to Anita Hill – in person – and seek her forgiveness. He can then comment via media and online that the apology has been made and accepted. He must also highlight his track record on women’s issues in the years since.

- On current VP Mike Pence – Joe Biden likes Republicans. He’s said so. “Forgive me father for I have sinned….” were his comments about liking members of the GOP. While this might hurt him with some Democratic voters, it could help him win over independents who have no official party as their home, or Republicans who don’t like Trump or former Trump supporters who feel let down by the president.

Don’t forget – the former vice president has his strong points, too.

He has decades of experience. He is liked and respected by both Democrats and Republicans. And he is most likely the only candidate, in my opinion, who can defeat President Trump in November 2020.

I’ve written before about how Biden can shoot straight from the hip – in a “no malarkey” style that is similar to Trump’s. He has also, like the president, shown his bravado with statements such as taking someone “out behind the school and beating the crap out of him.”

He is also the only Democrat who has a truly proven progressive record among the wide array of candidates running.

And when I say progressive, I don’t mean socialist or far-left. That is another check mark in the win column for Biden; he’s the most palatable to the more centrist and moderate Democrats, which, are the majority of those in the Democratic Party.

Polls are on his side lately. He leads the pack (even before he announced) as the first among Democrats, followed by Bernie Sanders, California Senator Kamala Harris and former Texas Congressman Beto O’Rourke. Surprising to many, he also leads among millennials.

Biden’s positives outweigh his negatives in my opinion. I believe the accusations against him are different – both in nature and in severity – than those against President Trump.

Biden is also the only one running who can beat Trump at his own game.

In a debate, if Trump lurks behind him as he did to Hillary Clinton, I could see Joe using the president as a prop, making light of it rather than ignore it (as Hillary did).

Biden also does well with white blue collar working male voters – voters who did not support Hillary, and one of the reasons she lost.

Hillary’s refusal to court these disenfranchised voters – going against the advice of her husband, former President Bill Clinton – could in turn provide an opportunity for Biden. Many of these voters are now unhappy with promises President Trump has made and did not keep. Biden could very well be able to win them back, specifically in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, which in turn could help put the next Democratic nominee in the White House.

What about his age? I know. He’ll be 78 if he wins the presidency. But all of us are living longer, working until we are older, and even look better in our older years (thanks to diet, exercise and Botox!). Oh, and let’s not forget, 78 is the new 40!

Last, and certainly not least, Republicans view Biden as a threat and want to keep him from running. Most Republicans I know have told me that Biden (even with these accusations against him) is the biggest threat to Donald Trump.

More proof that Republicans are worried? The pro-Trump Great America PAC released an ad aimed at Joe Biden amid the accusations of sexual misconduct. Titled “Creepy Joe,” the ad depicts children watching Biden hug and touch various women while Lucy Flores’ interview on her experience runs in the background.

But the Republicans should be careful, as Democrats and their PAC’s can also come up with ads against the current president, with clip after clip of his remarks, tweets – and don’t forget the infamous Access Hollywood tape! – making disparaging remarks about women time and time again. Those in glass houses…

Biden’s positives outweigh his negatives in my opinion. I believe the accusations against him are different – both in nature and in severity – than those against President Trump. And I agree with Senator Chris Coons, D-Del., who, in a recent interview said, "I think it was important for Joe to say directly to the American people that he gets that social standards have changed... I think he'll be able to move forward at this point."


I believe the third time will be the charm, and for Joe Biden, I believe his time is now. He can become the Democratic nominee; he can unite the party; and he can win the support of the other Democrats running for president.

But most importantly of all, I believe he can fulfill the Democrats’ number one goal: to make Donald J. Trump a one-term president.

Joe seems likeable and is certaintly the least polarized Democratic Presidential contenders for 2020. Joe is smart and strikes me as a competent politician. If he really puts his mind to it, joe could embarrass Trump in the debates. After all, you know was Trump is going to say beforehand and his responses are pretty predictable.

Trump may have delivered all that he is going to as President. He called out media bias, political correctness, filled Supreme Court vacancies with competent judges, and came up with the “novel” idea of our country puting its own interests before a foreign country. However, Trump talks about border security and then suggests our new “guests” should stay in sanctuary cities. Dummkopf.

Seems a like a deal was made between the Trump administration and the Democrats: No impeachment for open borders.

Even Trump being a “placeholder” for a “real” president still has value, however. The Democratic Party has initiated false flag operations, supported false accusers well after it become evident, used ANTIFA violent activities as a bargaining chip as seen with Nancy Pelosi’s ANTIFA comments, Democratic support for racism against Whites and sexism against men, and intimidation tactics against Conservative Students and speakers on college campuses.

The Radical Leftists has taken over the Democratic Party in order to advance their Socialist agenda. These Socialists are, well, using Socialist tactics. If you don’t see this, try reading Rules for Radicals and the Communist Manifesto.

Free speech, the right to own guns, the electoral college, our economic system, border security, and protections for our other civil rights are under attack by the Radical Leftists who are in control of the Democratic Party.

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders are both likeable, nice guys. The people that will follow them into power and will be installed in powerful positions are not. After all the crimes against the people of the United States and our Constitution, Democrats should never be allowed to hold public office again until the cancerous Radical Left has been excised from their Party.

Based on our political climate as put forth above, it appears Trump still has value well beyond being a placeholder for a real President. Trump can push the edges of the status quo and do what is necessary to fully expose and bring to justice the Radical Leftists who are attacking our country and way of life. This is war, and although no guns are being used, should the Radical Left win, our rights and way of life will be affected similarly to a lost shooting war and signing the instrument of surrender.

Of course, this assumes the Radical Left has not already won. If they got to Trump by threatening post Presidency prosecutions of his family, any further arguments are moot.

If Trump is still available in the fight to save our country, he should initiate the appropiate investigations and stop giving up ground to our enemies.

I will continue to support Trump in spite of his many “warts” because he still has the potential to turn away the Radical Leftist threat to our country. And that alone is sufficent justification to support our President.

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Not at all. Cain is out, Moore is wobbly, and the Fed isn’t blown up. Things seem to be going my way and I’m the outlier. Are things going your way?

Trump is in the White House. I put that one in the win column for the last two years, especially given the two SCOTUS appointments, so yeah, I'd say so.
 
Joe seems likeable and is certaintly the least polarized Democratic Presidential contenders for 2020. Joe is smart and strikes me as a competent politician. If he really puts his mind to it, joe could embarrass Trump in the debates. After all, you know was Trump is going to say beforehand and his responses are pretty predictable.

Trump may have delivered all that he is going to as President. He called out media bias, political correctness, filled Supreme Court vacancies with competent judges, and came up with the “novel” idea of our country puting its own interests before a foreign country. However, Trump talks about border security and then suggests our new “guests” should stay in sanctuary cities. Dummkopf.

Seems a like a deal was made between the Trump administration and the Democrats: No impeachment for open borders.

Even Trump being a “placeholder” for a “real” president still has value, however. The Democratic Party has initiated false flag operations, supported false accusers well after it become evident, used ANTIFA violent activities as a bargaining chip as seen with Nancy Pelosi’s ANTIFA comments, Democratic support for racism against Whites and sexism against men, and intimidation tactics against Conservative Students and speakers on college campuses.

The Radical Leftists has taken over the Democratic Party in order to advance their Socialist agenda. These Socialists are, well, using Socialist tactics. If you don’t see this, try reading Rules for Radicals and the Communist Manifesto.

Free speech, the right to own guns, the electoral college, our economic system, border security, and protections for our other civil rights are under attack by the Radical Leftists who are in control of the Democratic Party.

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders are both likeable, nice guys. The people that will follow them into power and will be installed in powerful positions are not. After all the crimes against the people of the United States and our Constitution, Democrats should never be allowed to hold public office again until the cancerous Radical Left has been excised from their Party.

Based on our political climate as put forth above, it appears Trump still has value well beyond being a placeholder for a real President. Trump can push the edges of the status quo and do what is necessary to fully expose and bring to justice the Radical Leftists who are attacking our country and way of life. This is war, and although no guns are being used, should the Radical Left win, our rights and way of life will be affected similarly to a lost shooting war and signing the instrument of surrender.

Of course, this assumes the Radical Left has not already won. If they got to Trump by threating post Presidency prosecutions of his family, any further arguments are moot.

If Trump is still available in the fight to save our country, he should initiate the appropiate investigations and stop giving up ground to our enemies.

I will continue to support Trump in spite of his many “warts” because he still has the potential to turn away the Radical Leftist threat to our country. And that alone is sufficent justification to support our President.

That's a great post. I don't agree with all of it, but I will say that if Trump were to suddenly move into action and start actually draining the swamp and not just chanting it over and over again, I might change my opinion on him. Of course, Trump is always going to be Trump, and the delusions of grandeur that persist with his idea of the world won't let him actually plan strategically. Instead, every challenge has to be met like the enemies at the gates and such he will always be mired down in combat and controversy. Meanwhile, the problems in the country grow larger and more insurmountable by the day.
 
That's a great post. I don't agree with all of it, but I will say that if Trump were to suddenly move into action and start actually draining the swamp and not just chanting it over and over again, I might change my opinion on him. Of course, Trump is always going to be Trump, and the delusions of grandeur that persist with his idea of the world won't let him actually plan strategically. Instead, every challenge has to be met like the enemies at the gates and such he will always be mired down in combat and controversy. Meanwhile, the problems in the country grow larger and more insurmountable by the day.

The parts of my post you disagree with are the most worthy of discussion, in my opinion. Especially given your long history of thoughful replies.
 
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