Quote from Scataphagos:
People "deserve" what they earn for themselves. A PRIMARY factor in America's economic power was the development of a large and affluent middle class. But a prime FACTOR in that occurring was a lack of competition. Now there are 300-500 Million Chindians who are happy to work for $5 per day, and they are competing for our once well-paying jobs. Therefore, America's middle class, as we've known it WILL NEVER RETURN.. and we have to "adjust down to it". I know, that sucks. But it's reality.
As for "anybody having a say in government"... I'm not as convinced of that now as I was when younger. It's immoral and wrong that 50% of the population pays ZERO federal income tax, yet they can "vote" for the other tax-paying 50% to have their assets confiscated and paid to the have-nots. Just plain WRONG!
You won't find much sympathy from me for the "works hard, but still a have not" crowd. I once had a job as a janitor. Always thinking, "this job sucks.... I need to do something different and make some money". Pardon me if I'm also thinking, "If I could do it, anybody else should be able, too".
Most people at the bottom are being EXPLOITED by and for the rest of us. It's our class system here in the U.S. And now they are needing to shove a lot of us further down to keep enriching themselves more and more at the top.
Salaries for CEOs and salaries for the average worker are way out of whack. It gets more and more out of whack every day. So your answer to the problem is to eliminate the people who are being exploited from having a vote. That is terribly convoluted logic.
We need to solve the problem...not blame those who are being exploited.
I don't care that you are not a janitor anymore. I'm so tired of hearing the same thing over and over again from folks. Har, har, har, I've pulled myself up by my bootstraps. Why can't you. That is the class system that you've bought into.
People are still being EXPLOITED. We do need janitors, don't we? I mean, at least they do provide a service that is much appreciated. Not these twitty-ass CEOs who think they are thousands of time more valuable than most who do nothing but steal from the rest of us.
People do have value. The TPTB want to make people believe that people who don't go to college do not have much value. I say bullshit, and yes, I did go to college.
And what do you say to all the people who are graduating from college today? Many who earn top grades cannot find a decent paying job. I guess they just better pull themselves up by their bootstraps and work at McDonald's to pay back their feaking loans of tens of thousands of dollars.
The janitor deserves to be paid enough to provide a decent living. No matter what you say. His or her 8 hours is sweat enough that should earn them a decent living. If they are not, the system is broken and it needs to be fixed.
Pay the salary that should be paid, and they will be able to pay their taxes.
AND...the problem is too much taxes. Shrink the goddam government. Quit letting them produce freaking monopolies that are crushing us.
We need to fix the problems at the source...not blame the victims.
What's happened to the golden rule...do unto others as you would have done unto you?
With the system set up as it is now, we cannot ALL pull ourselves up by our bootsraps. If we all did, the level would just be made higher. There always are people at the bottom. This system demands it. I think that 'bottom' deserves to earn a decent living instead of handing it over to the CEOs.
I don't claim to have all the answers, but I know taking away their right to vote is not the answer....even with how little our vote means today.
If you were still that janitor...and there is nothing wrong with being a janitor...it's good, honest work. If you were still that janitor, would you still arrive at the same answer that you have today?