Legality of Healthcare

Quote from pspr:

After the bumbs are thrown out, healthcare can be repealed by the next Congress. Or, if it is vetoed, by the next Congress and president.

Wouldn't the Repubs need 60 votes in the Senate? Even then, Obama could veto the bill which repeals.
 
Quote from achilles28:

I wish all these fucking lawyers would get off their ass and start organizing class-action lawsuits against the Government for violating the Constitution.\

Why is it the American legal system is so proactive when it comes to suing others for cash?

But when it comes to defending personal liberties from Government, Lawyers are totally reactive? They wait until some criminal is charged, THEN invoke the Constitution as a secondary aside in defense of the actual crime.

WTF is that.

Violation of our Constitutional Rights is a CRIME IN ITSELF.

Why can't Lawyers Preemptively file class-action suits against the Government for violations of our Constitutional Rights?

Think about it.

We put all these blood-sucking lawyers to Good Work. They get paid a shit-load. Case-law is made. Tyrannical laws get overturned. The Government and Congress get exposed for the corrupt, Freedom-hating schills they are. The People get their Constitution back, and we get LESS Government!!

This can happen through Grand Juries and Jury Trials. Forget the Supreme Court. They're a bunch of Big Government Whores.

Why can't this work?

Exactly what 'Constitutional Right' is being violated ? You wouldn't know what a 'constitutional right' is if it bit you on the ass.

The healthcare bill is not changing the Constitution in any way, shape, or form. It is a Law and, if passed by Congress and signed by the President, is very much 'constitutional'.

Understand the mechanics of our country before running off in the mouth about such things.
 
Quote from RangeBar:

Exactly what 'Constitutional Right' is being violated ? You wouldn't know what a 'constitutional right' is if it bit you on the ass.

The healthcare bill is not changing the Constitution in any way, shape, or form. It is a Law and, if passed by Congress and signed by the President, is very much 'constitutional'.

Understand the mechanics of our country before running off in the mouth about such things.

You're a fucking idiot.

The 10th Amendment declares healthcare unconstitutional because there's no authority granted in the Constitution for Federal regulation of healthcare.

Voted nobama, did you? Watch the video in the thread. Or better yet, take some of your own ill-conceived advice, and read the Constitution. You truly are an Obama-loving moron.
 
Quote from achilles28:

You're a fucking idiot.

The 10th Amendment declares healthcare unconstitutional because there's no authority granted in the Constitution for Federal regulation of healthcare.

Voted nobama, did you? Watch the video in the thread. Or better yet, take some of your own ill-conceived advice, and read the Constitution. You truly are an Obama-loving moron.

LOL, read the history of states & people trying to use the 10th amendment to get the federal gov't to reduce their power: the Feds do fairly well winning those battles. Good thing too or we'd simply be a nation of petty states instead of a world leader.

I don't 'love' Obama; I 'love' no leaders. He is doing a good job for his first year and I will get great pleasure watching the rightwingnuts go apeshit when he gets re-elected.
 
Quote from RangeBar:

LOL, read the history of states & people trying to use the 10th amendment to get the federal gov't to reduce their power: the Feds do fairly well winning those battles. Good thing too or we'd simply be a nation of petty states instead of a world leader.

I don't 'love' Obama; I 'love' no leaders. He is doing a good job for his first year and I will get great pleasure watching the rightwingnuts go apeshit when he gets re-elected.

Another NoObama lover who opposes the 10th Amendment? That's original.

The 10th Amendment clearly defines those powers not assigned to the Federal Government, to be afforded to the States or People. Regardless of what you Liberal morons or SC Justices have to say. Federalism is a dying religion.
 
Quote from RangeBar:
I don't 'love' Obama; I 'love' no leaders. He is doing a good job for his first year and I will get great pleasure watching the rightwingnuts go apeshit when he gets re-elected. [/B]

Obama will resign or be forced to do so before the end of 2011.

You really are a genius arent you.

Problem is that leaves us with crazy Joe Davola, aka Joe Biden as prez. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I6CGBNODaY
 
Quote from RangeBar:

LOL, read the history of states & people trying to use the 10th amendment to get the federal gov't to reduce their power: the Feds do fairly well winning those battles. Good thing too or we'd simply be a nation of petty states instead of a world leader.

I don't 'love' Obama; I 'love' no leaders. He is doing a good job for his first year and I will get great pleasure watching the rightwingnuts go apeshit when he gets re-elected.

Oh, and by the way Shithead, here's the opinion of a NJ Supreme Court Justice on the illegality of NobamaCare:

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Quote from achilles28:

Another NoObama lover who opposes the 10th Amendment? That's original.

The 10th Amendment clearly defines those powers not assigned to the Federal Government, to be afforded to the States or People. Regardless of what you Liberal morons or SC Justices have to say. Federalism is a dying religion.

If you think that the US Federal Gov't is going to get 'smaller' then you are totally delusional !!! No major power has a federal gov't that shrinks and ours never will either. And that's a good thing.
 
Quote from achilles28:

Oh, and by the way Shithead, here's the opinion of a NJ Supreme Court Justice on the illegality of NobamaCare:

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I hate to inform you of this but the NJ Supreme Court does not now, never has and never will decide what violates the US Constitution. The US Supreme Court decides these issues. The US Supreme Court takes a very wide view of federal powers and a very narrow scope of the 10th amendment.

You can call me 'shithead' and slam our president all you want but you will forever be frustrated if you think that you can stop progress. Why don't you nut cases go live in the 3rd world instead of trying to drag our country down to that level.
 
Quote from RangeBar:

If you think that the US Federal Gov't is going to get 'smaller' then you are totally delusional !!! No major power has a federal gov't that shrinks and ours never will either. And that's a good thing.

Thanks for showing your true colors.

You're a fucking idiot.

America is on the precipice of a debt implosion thanks to the relentless 50-year expansion of Federal Government. All pushed along by welfare queens, like you, I'm sure.

America is the next Greece or Portugal. We balance the budget today, and go headfirst into a Great Depression, tomorrow. I hope you're a daytrader, cause your economics aren't worth shit either.
 
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