I just proved to you that reading the tape in stocks makes zero sense.
You said just now "If the tape is slow, then there is not much interest in these prices so expect something to change or do something better with your time."
-> So, you are saying you actually know nothing: When the tape is slow either (=50%) something will change (you are not even saying up or down, how could you anyway), or ignore that market (=50%). Wow, to come to such conclusion I certainly do not need to watch the "tape". Why I am claiming this assertion alone is already completely wrong is that the same second you concluded the above, a huge trade may be crossed in a dark pool, and seconds or minutes later the position may be hedged or not, you simply don't know. Or there may be no trade that is currently being crossed in any of the dark pools. The point here is, you simply do not have the full picture and in fact you have a completely lacking picture by looking at trades in real-time.
Why do I get the impression you sound like a middle-man by touting "tape reading" and in the same sentence refer me to "Jigsaw" (whatever that is, a person, software, approach,...). I told you already clearly that for an educated, informed, and intelligent person it makes zero sense to attach the slightest value to tape reading of stock transactions in 2016. And I gave you very specific examples WHY. (see previous post of mine). You in turn have not refuted the points I made with a single piece of fact or detailed information. But instead link to someone or something that apparently proves tape reading works. Let me tell you something : I can pick and choose a piece of price action that was deliberately chosen to make ANY point I want. I can prove momentum trading works, mean reversion works, martingaling, reading sun or moon phases, wavelets, fib levels, or anything else under the sun works. The problem with all the above is that over time when you have a large enough sample size none of the above work. That is the number 1 trick that all those snake oil salesmen use to bait and hook unassuming newbies and I outright hate such attitude and shilling. It is deceiving beginners with the full knowledge that it does not work. (If you knew of one approach that worked, would you EVER share it with anyone? Ask yourself that one single question).
And again I am wondering, what is it with this season of the year that every single day another vendor or self-proclaimed god trader pops up on this site to convince the rest of the world that they have found the holy grail. There is no friggin holy grail in this business. Being desperate is justifyabe, but there is simply no excuse for being stupid.
You said just now "If the tape is slow, then there is not much interest in these prices so expect something to change or do something better with your time."
-> So, you are saying you actually know nothing: When the tape is slow either (=50%) something will change (you are not even saying up or down, how could you anyway), or ignore that market (=50%). Wow, to come to such conclusion I certainly do not need to watch the "tape". Why I am claiming this assertion alone is already completely wrong is that the same second you concluded the above, a huge trade may be crossed in a dark pool, and seconds or minutes later the position may be hedged or not, you simply don't know. Or there may be no trade that is currently being crossed in any of the dark pools. The point here is, you simply do not have the full picture and in fact you have a completely lacking picture by looking at trades in real-time.
Why do I get the impression you sound like a middle-man by touting "tape reading" and in the same sentence refer me to "Jigsaw" (whatever that is, a person, software, approach,...). I told you already clearly that for an educated, informed, and intelligent person it makes zero sense to attach the slightest value to tape reading of stock transactions in 2016. And I gave you very specific examples WHY. (see previous post of mine). You in turn have not refuted the points I made with a single piece of fact or detailed information. But instead link to someone or something that apparently proves tape reading works. Let me tell you something : I can pick and choose a piece of price action that was deliberately chosen to make ANY point I want. I can prove momentum trading works, mean reversion works, martingaling, reading sun or moon phases, wavelets, fib levels, or anything else under the sun works. The problem with all the above is that over time when you have a large enough sample size none of the above work. That is the number 1 trick that all those snake oil salesmen use to bait and hook unassuming newbies and I outright hate such attitude and shilling. It is deceiving beginners with the full knowledge that it does not work. (If you knew of one approach that worked, would you EVER share it with anyone? Ask yourself that one single question).
And again I am wondering, what is it with this season of the year that every single day another vendor or self-proclaimed god trader pops up on this site to convince the rest of the world that they have found the holy grail. There is no friggin holy grail in this business. Being desperate is justifyabe, but there is simply no excuse for being stupid.
Is all volume reported in real-time in stocks - i agree no. In Futures - yes. Is the volume that is eventually reported, the only force acting in a market.. No.. most volume is probably a leg of some trading strategy / hedge / spread etc.
So why is it still worth reading the tape??
To time entries exits, form a bias etc, still recognize large players (even if their intentions are unknown). If the tape is slow, then there is not much interest in these prices so expect something to change or do something better with your time. If it is fast with large size printing then there is a lot of interest etc. Liquidity is what you are really looking for in the tape - how much is trading at these prices, and how much effort does it take to move through them. That is what you can gauge from the tape. I would think across all relevant asset classes which you could monitor too. Say for the T-Note, you would have it side by side across the yield curve (Bonds, 5 year etc). In E-mini futures you could add some context by watching a tape of some blue chips also... Just thinking out a loud... Sure you aren't able to nowadays jump on a move because you saw one large trader (Livermore ticker tape style).. but you can build a mental picture of the market and form a bias of the current state of liquidity.
A lot more information can be extracted, and I will just give a suggestion instead of repeating information and pretending I am the expert here. Check out the order flow material presented here by Jigsaw themselves and some other presenters. I think its video 2 that breaks down what the order flow, as can be viewed purely in the tape, and gives some actionable things to view. My understanding of markets aligns well with what is presented. I would be interested Zzzz1 in what you have to say about their market perspective on what moves prices / how markets work / why to monitor the tape. I am open minded to alternative views so hope you check it out.