Learn something new every day about Obamacare

...and how it was rammed down our throat illegitimately (perhaps even illegally).

According to the Constitution, Article 1, Section 7 Clause 1:

"All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills."

This I knew. I had thought the Obamacare bill had started in the House, but what I didn't know was the reality of how it was passed...

Instead, using a legislative trick, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) took an innocuous bill that had passed the House unanimously on October 8, 2009 by a 416-0 vote, the Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009, removed every word of its text following the first sentence, and replaced it with the Affordable Care Act language.


More here:

http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/67644247991/40-congressmen-join-lawsuit-challenging-obamacares
 
Old news, everyone knew that going in and no one cared..... Congress (exception being the Tea Party) have taken the Constitution, torn it into confetti and littered the Senate and House floor with it's remains.

No one gives a rat's ass anymore about what's Constitutional, just over-reach after over-reach of powers, the concept of "Balance of Power" between the branches of Government is lost.
 
Quote from Wallet:

Old news, everyone knew that going in and no one cared..... Congress (exception being the Tea Party) have taken the Constitution, torn it into confetti and littered the Senate and House floor with it's remains.

No one gives a rat's ass anymore about what's Constitutional, just over-reach after over-reach of powers, the concept of "Balance of Power" between the branches of Government is lost.

Well, apparently not everyone knew. I'll admit to not knowing that Reid did the ol' bait and switch with a different bill.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

Well, apparently not everyone knew. I'll admit to not knowing that Reid did the ol' bait and switch with a different bill.

Seeing as how the bill wasn't available to read before the vote, remember we gotta pass it to find out what's in it, you may have a point. But I remember this being brought up some time ago and it didn't stir any waves.

The entire concept of the bill is unconstitutional by it's original design, that was made known by SCOTUS, they corrected the Solicitor General as he tried to tell them it wasn't a tax.... SCOTUS ruled that as a tax was the only way it could be implemented, and they conveniently re-wrote the bill. which ties into the premiss of legality.... all taxes shall originate in the House.

From top to bottom they didn't completely understand what they were trying to do.... they just wanted to ram the legislation down everyone's throat in an effort to solidify their (recipient base's) vote. Which will include all illegal aliens currently residing here, as they will try to bring them into a legitimate legal status.

I truly believe that this single piece of legislation will be the proverbial straw that breaks the camels back, and takes us over the edge fiscally.
 
Key points in today's report from the Council of Economic Advisers:

"1. Health care spending is growing at the slowest rate on record: According to the most recent projections, real per capita health care spending has grown at an estimated average annual rate of just 1.3 percent over the three years since 2010. This is the lowest rate on record for any three-year period and less than one-third the long-term historical average stretching back to 1965. This slower growth in spending is reflected in Medicare, Medicaid, and private insurance. "

"2. Health care price inflation is at its lowest rate in 50 years: Measured using personal consumption expenditure price indices, inflation for health care goods and services is currently running at just 1 percent on a year-over-year basis, the lowest level since January 1962. (Health care inflation measured using the medical CPI is lower than at any time since September 1972.)"

"3. The slowdown in health care cost growth is not due solely to the Great Recession; something has changed: The fact that the health cost slowdown has persisted so long even as the economy is recovering, the fact that it is reflected in health care prices – not just utilization or coverage, and the fact that it has also shown up in Medicare – which is more insulated from economic trends, all imply that the current slowdown is the result of more than just the recession and its aftermath. Rather, the slowdown appears to reflect “structural” changes in the United States health care system, a conclusion consistent with a substantial body of recent research."

"4. The ACA is contributing to the recent slow growth in health care prices and spending and is improving quality of care: ACA provisions that reduce Medicare overpayments to private insurers and medical providers are contributing to the recent slow growth in health care prices and spending. Other ACA reforms are reducing hospital readmission rates (see figure below) and increasing provider participation in payment models designed to promote efficient, high-quality care. "

"5. Slower growth in health care costs, thanks in part to the ACA, is likely to have substantial benefits for the Nation’s economy:
" The recent slow growth in health care spending has substantially improved the long-term Federal budget outlook: The Congressional Budget Office has reduced its projections of future Medicare and Medicaid spending in 2020 by $147 billion (0.6 percent of GDP) since August 2010. This represents about a 10 percent reduction in projected spending on these programs. These revisions primarily reflect the recent slow growth in health care spending."

Charts, links>>
 
Quote from Ricter:

Key points in today's report from the Council of Economic Advisers:

"1. Health care spending is growing at the slowest rate on record: According to the most recent projections, real per capita health care spending has grown at an estimated average annual rate of just 1.3 percent over the three years since 2010. This is the lowest rate on record for any three-year period and less than one-third the long-term historical average stretching back to 1965. This slower growth in spending is reflected in Medicare, Medicaid, and private insurance. "

"2. Health care price inflation is at its lowest rate in 50 years: Measured using personal consumption expenditure price indices, inflation for health care goods and services is currently running at just 1 percent on a year-over-year basis, the lowest level since January 1962. (Health care inflation measured using the medical CPI is lower than at any time since September 1972.)"

"3. The slowdown in health care cost growth is not due solely to the Great Recession; something has changed: The fact that the health cost slowdown has persisted so long even as the economy is recovering, the fact that it is reflected in health care prices – not just utilization or coverage, and the fact that it has also shown up in Medicare – which is more insulated from economic trends, all imply that the current slowdown is the result of more than just the recession and its aftermath. Rather, the slowdown appears to reflect “structural” changes in the United States health care system, a conclusion consistent with a substantial body of recent research."

"4. The ACA is contributing to the recent slow growth in health care prices and spending and is improving quality of care: ACA provisions that reduce Medicare overpayments to private insurers and medical providers are contributing to the recent slow growth in health care prices and spending. Other ACA reforms are reducing hospital readmission rates (see figure below) and increasing provider participation in payment models designed to promote efficient, high-quality care. "

"5. Slower growth in health care costs, thanks in part to the ACA, is likely to have substantial benefits for the Nation’s economy:
" The recent slow growth in health care spending has substantially improved the long-term Federal budget outlook: The Congressional Budget Office has reduced its projections of future Medicare and Medicaid spending in 2020 by $147 billion (0.6 percent of GDP) since August 2010. This represents about a 10 percent reduction in projected spending on these programs. These revisions primarily reflect the recent slow growth in health care spending."

Charts, links>>

How could the ACA be contributing to the slower growth in healthcare costs when it isn't even in effect yet? LOL! Whitehouse.gov article.

What a load of horseshit!
 
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How could the ACA be contributing to the slower growth in healthcare costs when it isn't even in effect yet? LOL! Whitehouse.gov article.

What a load of horseshit!
Public presentation of rates, for one.

The research is not whitehouse.gov's.
 
Quote from Ricter:

Public presentation of rates, for one.

The research is not whitehouse.gov's.

No, the research is from the Council of Economic Advisors, which is an agency of the Executive Office of the President, and appointed by the President. Gee, I wonder what they'll try to show?

Horseshit.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

No, the research is from the Council of Economic Advisors, which is an agency of the Executive Office of the President, and appointed by the President. Gee, I wonder what they'll try to show?

Horseshit.
Ad hominem appears to be your only tactic lately.
 
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