Quit being naive.Why do you continue becoming defensive when I ask questions about your background and interests as "defending GWB" ???
Note: My question had nothing to do with GWB nor did I mention his username...it was about your interests.
- Seriously, if you don't want to answer the questions, I'm OK with that. Yet, your obsession with GWB is starting to get a bit strange.
With that said, I strongly doubt your illusion of vax-nazis in the United States will take the country to that of Australia if that's what you meant...creation of Covid Detention camps.
P.S. I believe we have more anti-vax nazis than we have pro-vax nazis. The former is more active in protesting but that in itself may be why I believe there are more anti-vax nazis here in North America.
P.S.S. The more I think about this...our Hospitals and Nursing Homes here in North America are like Covid Detention Camps...they lockdown when there's an outbreak.
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Lets be honest here, you’re making up what you think “constitutional rights” are as you go.
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A virus with a CFR of over 2% is not " no more deadly than a cold". Government in the U.S. has a long history of locking down infected people - maybe you should take a look at the Quarantine laws (42 U.S. Code § 264, etc.) and the federal Public Health Service Act of 1944 -- as just a few of the many examples. In the United States, thousands of people have been subjected to legally enforceable quarantines or are in “self-quarantine -- all supported by the U.S. Constitution and laws.
The U.S. already has had an entire network of quarantine facilities for decades.
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https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/historyquarantine.html
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The Division of Global Migration and Quarantine is part of CDC’s National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases and is headquartered in Atlanta. Quarantine stations are located in Anchorage, Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, El Paso, Honolulu, Houston, Los Angeles, Miami, Minneapolis, New York, Newark, Philadelphia, San Diego, San Francisco, San Juan, Seattle, and Washington, D.C. (see contact lists and map).
Under its delegated authority, the Division of Global Migration and Quarantine is empowered to detain, medically examine, or conditionally release individuals and wildlife suspected of carrying a communicable disease.
Signs like this one, for the El Paso Quarantine Station, identify the Quarantine Station facilities located in airports and at land border crossings.
The list of quarantinable diseases is contained in an Executive Order of the President External external icon external icon and includes cholera, diphtheria, infectious tuberculosis, plague, smallpox, yellow fever, viral hemorrhagic fevers(such as Marburg, Ebola, and Crimean-Congo), and severe acute respiratory syndromes.
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It should be noted that severe acute respiratory syndromes includes, SARS, Covid-19, etc.
Although I don't approve of "internment camps" or "virus detention camps"...
- The United States has done what you've described in your quote before in the past involving the 1918 Influenza Pandemic that most forget the Influenza in the U.S. had started within our military.
The U.S. government did in fact separate infected soldiers from their families that lived in military housing or separated infected family members of soldiers and put the infected family members in the "virus infection camps" (my name for it) against the objections of the soldiers.
One of my great grandfather's children died in one of those camps while another died at home nearby the base. The one that died in the camp (similar to the image below) had been separated from his family for about a month and he was only 12 years old...scared and surrounded by strangers.
They did the camps in an attempt to contain Influenza to protect the general population but it soon spread to nearby communities and then spread to the rest of the United States. In fact, one "virus-infected camp" would eventually infect about 26 military bases, universities, nearby large cities, and many areas of our infrastructure.
Surprisingly, we continue sending U.S. soldiers abroad to serve in other countries...those soldiers then infected other countries that at the time had no cases of Influenza. Many countries at the time blamed the United States for the global spread of Influenza that caused the Pandemic...caused millions to die.
- Thus, I stand corrected...the United States has done before what Australia is currently doing.
P.S. Initially, the Influenza of the 1918 Pandemic...initially began as those infected only have mild symptoms such as just a fever with a headache for a few days. In fact, for a few months...it was called "three-day fever" by our soldiers. Then it begins to spread and mutate until a variant is birth that became deadlier when we infected Spain and its King.
We then blamed Spain for Influenza becoming deadlier when the virus we infected them had then mutated...hence the name the Spanish Flu.
The most amazing similarity is how people initially react to a new disease...if most only get mild symptoms (very few die)...we let our guard down and it then spreads. Mutations then occur from travel...then a mutation is birth that's deadly.
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Although I don't approve of "internment camps" or "virus detention camps"...
Influenza outbreak occurred first in the military bases, military housing...in which one particular military base my great grandfather an officer lost two children at one particular camp but at that time...they were not called "virus detention camps".
- The United States has done what you've described in your quote before in the past involving the 1918 Influenza Pandemic that most forget the Influenza in the U.S. had started within our military.
The U.S. government did in fact separate infected soldiers from their families that lived in military housing or separated infected family members of soldiers and put the infected family members in the "virus infection camps" (my name for it) against the objections of the soldiers.
One of my great grandfather's children died in one of those camps while another died at home nearby the base. The one that died in the camp (similar to the image below) had been separated from his family for about a month and he was only 12 years old.
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They did the camps in an attempt to contain Influenza to protect the general population but it soon spread to nearby communities and then spread to the rest of the United States. In fact, one "virus infected camp" would eventually infected about 26 military bases.
In fact, U.S. soldiers were sent abroad to serve...those soldiers then infected other countries that at the time had no cases of Influenza. Many countries at the time blamed the United States for the global spread of Influenza that caused the Pandemic.
Thus, I stand corrected...the United States has done before what Australia is currently doing.
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The U.S. has a long history of quarantining the infected in government facilities --- all supported by the Constitution and law.
Vietnam to produce more Sputnik V vaccine in deal with Russia
https://www.reuters.com/markets/eur...putnik-v-vaccine-deal-with-russia-2021-12-01/
MOSCOW, Dec 1 (Reuters) - Russia and Vietnam have agreed to expand production of Russia's Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine in Vietnam, Russian sovereign wealth fund RDIF, which markets the vaccine internationally, said on Wednesday.
The deal between Russia and Vietnam's state-owned VABIOTECH and Vietnamese investment company Sovico Group, was signed during Vietnamese President Nguyen Xuan Phuc's visit to Russia this week. It paves the way for expansion of Sputnik V production in Vietnam.
The agreement will also allow VABIOTECH, which had already been producing Sputnik V, to begin manufacturing the one-shot Sputnik Light vaccine in Vietnam, RDIF said.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/eur...putnik-v-vaccine-deal-with-russia-2021-12-01/
MOSCOW, Dec 1 (Reuters) - Russia and Vietnam have agreed to expand production of Russia's Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine in Vietnam, Russian sovereign wealth fund RDIF, which markets the vaccine internationally, said on Wednesday.
The deal between Russia and Vietnam's state-owned VABIOTECH and Vietnamese investment company Sovico Group, was signed during Vietnamese President Nguyen Xuan Phuc's visit to Russia this week. It paves the way for expansion of Sputnik V production in Vietnam.
The agreement will also allow VABIOTECH, which had already been producing Sputnik V, to begin manufacturing the one-shot Sputnik Light vaccine in Vietnam, RDIF said.
Many may recall that GWB and I had many go arounds early on as to why he had such substantial and persistent boner over having the military run vaccination clinics. That uniformed, polished boots scenario gave it the look he liked. That was an early sign. Then that strategy started taking hits from the left because it was not woke because "their people" did not trust the government so using the military to do vaccines rather than Rite-Aid where they get their other shiite already suddenly lost traction. OOOPS!
Meanwhile, most people were going down to CVS or Walmart or the clinic at their local school. And just a couple weeks later the issue started turning out to be vaccine resistance. Probably if the military helped in some places for a few weeks fine, but it was all part of some kind of military establishing ground control theme to make a weak doddering president look like he was in charge of things.
But it gave GWB a buzz and he is still on the lookout for more of that type of thing. If you could roll out some COVID HUMVEES and have them go door to door to check vaccination cards that would be great, especially if GWB could do a ride along. You know like when George Soros was a kid he used to ride along with the Nazis when they did round-ups to send people to the camps, and he later said in an interview that it was the best time in his life.
Many may recall that GWB and I had many go arounds early on as to why he had such substantial and persistent boner over having the military run vaccination clinics. That uniformed, polished boots scenario gave it the look he liked. That was an early sign. Then that strategy started taking hits from the left because it was not woke because "their people" did not trust the government so using the military to do vaccines rather than Rite-Aid where they get their other shiite already suddenly lost traction. OOOPS!
Meanwhile, most people were going down to CVS or Walmart or the clinic at their local school. And just a couple weeks later the issue started turning out to be vaccine resistance. Probably if the military helped in some places for a few weeks fine, but it was all part of some kind of military establishing ground control theme to make a weak doddering president look like he was in charge of things.
But it gave GWB a buzz and he is still on the lookout for more of that type of thing. If you could roll out some COVID HUMVEES and have them go door to door to check vaccination cards that would be great, especially if GWB could do a ride along. You know like when George Soros was a kid he used to ride along with the Nazis when they did round-ups to send people to the camps, and he later said in an interview that it was the best time in his life.
Let's state my position once again about the military. The military was the best organization to provide the logistics of distributing the vaccine when they were initially available under Trump's presidency in the U.S. At that time, there was only one private company signed up to distribute the vaccine who could handle vaccines at cold temperatures. This company itself stated they had nowhere near the capacity to handle the logistics for the Covid vaccine.
We shouldn't need to remind everyone that Trump's initial attempts at distributing the Covid vaccine were a complete fiasco. No capacity, no storage, states/counties not being aware of their allocations, and many other problems. Trump should have used the U.S. military to delivery the initial vaccines, and to provide freezers and other equipment.
Furthermore Trump left it to the states to set-up vaccination sites. A job that states were poorly prepared to do. Take a look at Florida with long overnight lines full of the frail and elderly -- what a disaster that was. The military also has many medical personal -- in locations where the states/counties were unprepared to setup vaccination sites -- the job of administering vaccines should have been given to the U.S. military and other federal agencies (FEMA, etc.) until the state/local/hospital/pharmacy infrastructure was ready to take over the task.
Sadly Trump just threw up his hands and left it to the states & counties to figure out vaccine distribution and vaccination sites. He simply wanted to avoid any possible political blame -- and due to this the federal government failed to do its job when faced with a national emergency.