Larry Williams Million Dollar Challenge

[Thunderdog]

Quote from DonKee:

It's always comical to see someone, who has averaged about 1500 posts / year (approx. 7/trading day), insinuating that posting a "real time trade journal" for even a short period of time will help them become a better trader.

Who cares if LW posts 10 trades in row that are winners or 10 trades in row that are all losers? How exactly does that help you become a better trader?

Sometimes reality is a tough friend, but if you've been posting here for 7 years at a rate of 7 times per trading day, trading might not be for you.

Maybe you should write a book about your last 7 years, instead?

Two things.

First, your cognitive capabilities. My request of Mr. Williams has nothing to do with "becoming a better trader" and everything to to with legitimizing, at least in small part, his grandiose claims of superior trading performance. Any thinking person would regard my request as reasonable in the face of all the time Larry seems willing to provide us. Any thinking person.

And second, I don't post only during trading days, so you may wish to try again with your impressive arithmetic prowess. (But you may want to go slowly this time, because even if I did only post on trading days, your numbers would still be off.)

Oh, excellent choice of user name, by the way.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from vikana:

I had screenshots with all positions, pending orders, account number etc. Based on that, I went through and summarized what I found.

I also checked the a few of the prices against my historical database, and only found data that matched the historcal data.

As I said: seems 100% legit to me. I found no evidence of photoshop'ing, tampering etc. Larry Williams does swing trade, and the gains/losses looked reasonable in the context of the price action of the previous weeks and days.

Well, if you are willing to accept at face unaudited trading records from the man who claims on his own web site to be "the most highly regarded and well known short term trader in the world," despite an interesting and colorful past, then who am I to question what you find acceptable? However, I note that you did not answer the second question in my earlier post:

Quote from Thunderdog:

...Also, do you not find it at all curious that Larry would go out of his way so generously with his time and effort here on ET, but for some inexplicable reason refuses to provide a simple, unfettered, full and proper real-time trade journal for even a short period of time? Does it raise absolutely no flags for you when he has taken so much time already, that the one thing that would shut everyone up is the one thing he will simply not provide?

 

[DonKee]

Quote from Thunderdog:

Two things.

First, your cognitive capabilities. My request of Mr. Williams has nothing to do with "becoming a better trader" and everything to to with legitimizing, at least in small part, his grandiose claims of superior trading performance. Any thinking person would regard my request as reasonable in the face of all the time Larry seems willing to provide us. Any thinking person.

I guess we all get to decide how we want to spend our time.

If you feel that becoming the "Consumer Reports" for traders is your calling, then good luck with it.

 

[volente_00]

Quote from Thunderdog:

Two things.

First, your cognitive capabilities. My request of Mr. Williams has nothing to do with "becoming a better trader" and everything to to with legitimizing, at least in small part, his grandiose claims of superior trading performance. Any thinking person would regard my request as reasonable in the face of all the time Larry seems willing to provide us. Any thinking person.

And second, I don't post only during trading days, so you may wish to try again with your impressive arithmetic prowess. (But you may want to go slowly this time, because even if I did only post on trading days, your numbers would still be off.)

Oh, excellent choice of user name, by the way.

If you spent half as much time on becoming a better trader instead of arguing about things you don't believe in such as Larry or GOD then maybe you would actually turn the corner. Your closed mind is your biggest obstacle in this journey.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from volente_00:

If you spent half as much time on becoming a better trader instead of arguing about things you don't believe in such as Larry or GOD then maybe you would actually turn the corner. Your closed mind is your biggest obstacle in this journey.

Tell you what. You try not to worry about my trading, and I'll try not to worry about your judgment.


P.S. Your "open" mind is the biggest opportunity in Larry's journey. Have you signed up yet for his "Million Dollar Keys to the Kingdom Money Tree" seminar jamboree? Operators are standing by.

 

[OldTrader]

Quote from Thunderdog:

Just provide us all here at ET with a simple, unfettered, full and proper real-time trade journal for even a short length of time. And your job will be done!

Given everything else you are willing to do, why is this simple request apparently just too much for you?

I'd like to see you do exactly the same. Personally, I don't think you trade, but a "simple, unfettered, full and proper trade journal for even a short length of time" would clarify this for all of us who are suspicious.

OldTrader

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from OldTrader:

I'd like to see you do exactly the same. Personally, I don't think you trade, but a "simple, unfettered, full and proper trade journal for even a short length of time" would clarify this for all of us who are suspicious.

OldTrader

I can live with your suspicions about me. I'm just an anonymous Internet poster with time on my hands. But look at the title of this thread. It's about Larry Williams, "the most highly regarded and well known short term trader in the world. No other futures trader is as accomplished as Larry Williams."

http://ireallytrade.com/aboutlarry.htm

(You're welcome for the plug, Larry.)

So if "the most highly regarded and well known short term trader in the world" deigns to speak with us at considerable length, is it so untoward to ask him for a smudge of real-time proof? We are talking, after all, about "the most highly regarded and well known short term trader in the world. No other futures trader is as accomplished as Larry Williams."

He is a giant among men, and here you are protecting him like he's your little brother. You're lucky Larry evidently doesn't insult so easily, otherwise he might find your conduct rather patronizing and condescending.

I'm reminded of a prior post in this thread...

Quote from Thunderdog:

If I may make an observation here. It seems that the people who found Larry are not unlike the people who found religion. They are afraid to question their faith with critical judgment because the façade might chip. And then where would they be? Perhaps that's why the Church of Larry didn't feel obligated to pay income taxes...

 

[Xspurt]

Quote from OldTrader:

I'd like to see you do exactly the same. Personally, I don't think you trade, but a "simple, unfettered, full and proper trade journal for even a short length of time" would clarify this for all of us who are suspicious.

OldTrader

I think that's a fair request.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from Xspurt:

I think that's a fair request.

"Fair and Balanced?"

 

[OldTrader]

Quote from Thunderdog:

I can live with your suspicions about me. I'm just an anonymous Internet poster with time on my hands.

Yep, that's my definite opinion. We registered at this site about the same time, yet you have 3X as many posts. And amongst those posts are posts going back months and years regarding Larry Williams, where you have pounded him unmercifully.

I think it only fitting that you provide a "simple, unfettered, full and proper trade journal for even a short length of time" . Don't continue to dodge. We're no longer asking you to compete with Larry. There's no bet at stake here. Just provide the proof that you do in fact trade.

OldTrader