Larry Williams Million Dollar Challenge

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Tdog, what is your love affair for ?


You would have a case if the seminars were on how to cheat the irs and not get caught. Can he still trade ? I don't know and really don't care. At one time he could, and he capitalized on the fact to supplement his income. He has offered you a challenge that you are scared to accept. I don't blame you. It would be like challenging jose canseco to a homerun derby.
 
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As outlined yesterday, Larry Williams provided me with complete records of several trading periods spanning later 2008 through Aug 31, 2009. His only request was “all i ask is to be reported fairly”, which I hope I’m doing.

Larry Williams is NOT a one lot trader as some had suggested. Here are the stats from the trading records:

Avg number of contracts: 35
Max number of contracts: 57
Min number of contracts: 22

Avg total position profit: 73k
Max total position profit: 177k
Biggest total position loss: (18k)

Biggest position win: 120k (next 101k, then 89k)
Biggest position loss: 18k (next 17.5k, then 10k)

Tradables: JY, GC, KC, US, VX, HO, NG, ZW, BP, SP and several others.

I’ve attached a small screenshot of some of yesterday’s (Aug 31 2009) data.

In my opinion this settles the Larry Williams “dispute”: he clearly trades size, and has provided ample evidence of several very good positions with large profits at various points in time. I have no doubt he provided real data for his real account.

Edit: I had transposed two numbers when posting yesterday (incorrectly copying from Excel). As I couldn't edit the post I asked for it to be deleted so I could repost
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I have not seen the underlying documentation supporting these numbers. May I ask what establishes their authenticity and validity? Serious question.

Also, do you not find it at all curious that Larry would go out of his way so generously with his time and effort here on ET, but for some inexplicable reason refuses to provide a simple, unfettered, full and proper real-time trade journal for even a short period of time? Does it raise absolutely no flags for you when he has taken so much time already, that the one thing that would shut everyone up is the one thing he will simply not provide?
 
Thuderwonder you have yet to prove who you are.

i will gladly send you my statements from last year showing about a 8 fold increase in my account, I do not have all trade records for the last 22 years! Do you? Does anyone??


just tell me who you really are..and that if it is as represented you will admit -here- that i'm not that bad of a trader. I will mail statements--or have my broker--to your home address.

Larry Williams (really)

I am fed up with these personal attacks on me so have come to defend myself and answer the Dawg.
 
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As outlined yesterday, Larry Williams provided me with complete records of several trading periods spanning later 2008 through Aug 31, 2009. His only request was “all i ask is to be reported fairly”, which I hope I’m doing.
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Several trading periods, sure, he just shows you what he wants to show, just like he when he brags about his 1987 contest and leaves out the 6 million loss in his managed account in the same year...

They call this cherry picking your winners


Instead of posting his statements on his website for all to see , very simply and direct , he sends a moderator on a message board some cherry picked records and you have to make an "objective" analysis

LOL, talk about obfuscation...

worthless, your "prove"
 
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i will gladly send you my statements from last year showing about a 8 fold increase in my account, I do not have all trade records for the last 22 years! Do you? Does anyone??




Larry Williams (really)

I am fed up with these personal attacks on me so have come to defend myself and answer the Dawg.
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You don't need to send anyone statements, just put them on your website, just like you did with your 1987 contest results.


really, that simple


Now , Larry thows his amazing records in the garbage. LOL
Every serious trader keeps a detailed log of all his trades, the good the bad and ugly
A vendor might only keep the good years, yes, we understand that...
 
i never posted by trade on site as i did not have one the broker did.

I offered to send Blunndedawg the data he refused it so did you

I think you are both the same guy.

please prove you are not.
 
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Thuderwonder you have yet to prove who you are.

i will gladly send you my statements from last year showing about a 8 fold increase in my account, I do not have all trade records for the last 22 years! Do you? Does anyone??


just tell me who you really are..and that if it is as represented you will admit -here- that i'm not that bad of a trader. I will mail statements--or have my broker--to your home address.

Larry Williams (really)

I am fed up with these personal attacks on me so have come to defend myself and answer the Dawg.
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If you are willing to do all that, then what prevents you from simply providing us all here at ET with a simple, unfettered, full and proper real-time trade journal for even a short length of time? I just don't understand your reluctance. Perhaps you could explain it to me.
 
there is nothing i can say or do that will change ThunderblunderDawgs view.

he still will not reveal his real identities...i have offered to send complete statements (perhaps i will post them on Ireallytrade but that takes a little time--I can send them to him quicker...but he failed to agree that, that would appease him)...that's not good enough foir him..I showed an unbiased third party trade recaps with $100,000;s of profits---that was not good enough----I gave a trade set up that was not good enough.

I think Puretruth/Thunderdawg/Burton are all the same cabal...a just another Micheal Moore.

I'm outta here---say what you want littledawg...you will never give up.

Peace to all
 
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i never posted by trade on site as i did not have one the broker did.

I offered to send Blunndedawg the data he refused it so did you

I think you are both the same guy.

please prove you are not.
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You posted your 1987 monthly statements.

You don't need to send anything to anyone in a private way, just post your track record from the last 40 years on your website , publicly, for ALL to see

What you think doesn't matter, what your 40 years long track record is, DOES
 
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there is nothing i can say or do that will change ThunderblunderDawgs view...
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Sure there is! Just provide us all here at ET with a simple, unfettered, full and proper real-time trade journal for even a short length of time. And your job will be done! Do you have a congenital disorder rendering you incapable of interpreting what I just wrote? Or a congential disorder rendering you incapable of complying to such a simple request?
 
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