Larry Williams Million Dollar Challenge

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Quote from OldTrader:

In view of your trading problems, maybe Larry could send you a free market letter, or something to get you off on the right foot.

OldTrader
Fortunately, I do not need a market letter, but your sentiment is appreciated.

Is this really who and what you are? Targeting those who merely seek clarity from someone who charges thousands of dollars for his "knowledge?" What is it that you are afraid of? Why the need to come to the defense of the greatest trader in all the land? In the opaque world of market vendors, why do you find comfort in a cloak?

Forgive me, Oldtrader, but you are not an independent thinking trader. You are an adherent, an apostle. A devotee.
 
Quote from volente_00:

So your attack years ago on my belief in a higher power was not casting the first stone ?
No. We were having an exchange. A debate. You were for a belief and I was against it. If you do not wish for someone to disagree with you, then you should not engage in debates. Someone disagreeing with you is not an insult in and of itself. Your interpreting someone's doubt in the veracity of your own beliefs as an insult suggests a weak foundation, easily threatened.
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

Fortunately, I do not need a market letter, but your sentiment is appreciated.

Is this really who and what you are? Targeting those who merely seek clarity from someone who charges thousands of dollars for his "knowledge?" What is it that you are afraid of? Why the need to come to the defense of the greatest trader in all the land? In the opaque world of market vendors, why do you find comfort in a cloak?

Forgive me, Oldtrader, but you are not an independent thinking trader. You are an adherent, an apostle. A devotee.

You're "merely seeking clarity"? C'mon. You are, and have been for years, on a mission to destroy. He offered you his trades for the last year I believe, that would have given you clarity. Evidently you turned that down.

By the way, I don't know Williams, never subscribed, never been to a seminar, never read a book. What I'm doing here is trying to provide some balance to your one-sided diatribe.

OldTrader
 
Quote from R. Raskolnikov:

Thunderdog, why do you even care? Did you pay him money and were not satisfied with what he offered?

I mean honestly, why do you care so much?
No, I never spent a dime on Larry. However, I received mailings years ago, probably because of the broker I had been using or maybe the mailing list of a few periodicals I had subscribed to at that time. I did, however, spend a lot of money on what must be about 130 books or so on the markets over the last dozen years. Most were worthless, some were not. (I looked carefully through a few of Larry's books in bookstores and deemed them to be in the former category, thereby saving myself some money.)

Why do I do it? To be perfectly candid with you, I do it because I think it is the right thing to do. After reading Gallacher's book in the mid-90s and doing a bit of my own investigating some years later just for the heck of it, it just makes me feel good. As I mentioned earlier, I don't believe in karma. But I do believe in doing the right thing. Truth be told, I expected better from a few of Larry's apologists here, but look at the intellectual horsepower of the typical Larry enthusiast in this thread and others. And then judge for yourself.

I'm fairly certain that I didn't change anyone's mind. But it was a cleansing exercise. :)
 
Quote from OldTrader:

...By the way, I don't know Williams, never subscribed, never been to a seminar, never read a book...
If you know absolutely nothing about him, then maybe you should excuse yourself from this exchange and stop discussing what you admittedly know nothing about. I'm just saying.
 
Quote from Shack:

I have read a lot of hateful criticism on this thread directed at Larry Williams and I need to weigh in on it...

It is obvious that those of you who personally attack Larry Williams are just envious of his success, and you are threatened by the fact that he gives so much of his time, knowledge and insight to help average people become great traders.

I am an owner of a trucking company, but I also trade index and commodity futures part-time, but hopefully full-time someday.

I bought a copy of Larry Williams' 2009 Forecast in January of this year. I can tell you without a doubt that Larry still has "the touch" and a great talent for forecasting the markets. I have been amazed at the accuracy in which his forecast has called all the major highs and lows in the US Stock Market so far this year.

In February of this year, I had approx. $35,000 in my account. I traded that account using only Larry's 2009 Forecast for the US Stock Market, and I only traded the S&P 500. That same account has grown to over $144,000 since his first recommended buy signal at the end of February.

I have simply taken long positions at his forecasted major lows, and short positions at his forecasted major highs in the market.

I am very pleased with my 300% gain over the past 6 months... all thanks to Larry Williams and his great forecasting ability, and his willingness to share it.

I think Larry Williams' great results speak for themselves.

-Shack


Hello First Time Post Wonder,


So you traded the S&P and made money ?


Let's see how well your "guru" did :


2009emini.jpg



DOWN 32.36 points


YOU PROBABLY DID THE OPPOSITE FROM HIM OR YOU MIXING UP WITH ANOTHER L.W.


OR IS IT YOU L.W ? Nah, you wouldn't be that stupid...LOL
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

If you know absolutely nothing about him, then maybe you should excuse yourself from this exchange and stop discussing what you admittedly know nothing about. I'm just saying.

I didn't say I knew nothing about him. I said I didn't know him, hadn't read his books, subscribed, attended a seminar. I do know about some of his indicators. I've read articles about him. Looked at his website, read the detractors, etc etc. Williams has been around a long time...so have I.

Next time try reading.

OldTrader
 
Quote from Shack:



I think Larry Williams' great results speak for themselves.

-Shack


His "most accomplished" results certainly do


lwspemini.jpg

2009emini.jpg


LW : 111 points


I had a look at all the ES systems offered by the broker striker.com (specialist in automated systems) for the same period or less
They post actual results, not hypothetical fluff for their systems, you only have to register to see those.

clean record of broker Striker
http://www.nfa.futures.org/basicnet/Details.aspx?entityid=0277685&rn=Y


Brigade ES : june 2008 - aug 2009 : 391.53 points

Archer ES : jan 2008 - aug 2009 : 159.66 points

Battalion ES : jan 2008 - aug 2009 : 201.91 points

Charge Indices ES :jan 2008 - aug 2009 : 390.91 points

Compass ES : jan 2008 - aug 2009 : 196.49 points

Countertrend ES : dec 2008 - aug 2009 : 189.32 points

Earlybird ES : march 2008 - aug 2009 : 269.9 points

GINA ES : may 2009 - aug 2009 : 178 points !!!!!

Impetus ES : jan 2008 - aug 2009 : 226.24 points

LAXMI ES : sept 2008 - aug 2009 : 169.25 points

RAM ES : aug 2008 - aug 2009 : 168 points

Saturn ES : sept 2008 - aug 2009 : 295 points




12 out of the 28 ES systems or 42 % make more points than our most accomplished trader...



P.S. And we are still waiting for his "most accomplished" 40 year long track record (Please, include the blow-up's)
 
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