I am not a customer of ETG. I moved and am a customer of a small BD that clears SLK. I do not want to antagonize. My last and final point is 'consider the source" that is the people who are talking about these firms, ETG, Bright, Echo, Leiber etc might not know. They either left a long time ago or have an ax. Just consider the source. Like Andrasnm talking about ETG when he left more than 6 years ago, and those sort of things.