Quote from ratboy88:
doa = dead on arrival
Quote from trendlover:
This is sincere answer ratboy, or are you playing in good fun?
Ok, if this is the meaning, than nutmeg is saying because of confidentiality and privacy issues, it is hard to get the facts on foster care because law set up for good intentions can also be used to hide important information.
Quote from nutmeg:
That is what I mean, only I wouldn't necessarily use the word "hide" important information. If a social worker has a complaint (as in Rats video) or anyone within the system has a complaint where can they take their complaint? For that matter, I'm not sure if a judge who has issues with the system can do much. It is a circultous dead end loop.
Quote from FightTheFuture:
I still think the authorities should have taken the offer of the men to be taken and prosecuted, possibly with no permanent contact and or monitoring, visitation only, whatever.
Let the sect die out.
Let the children stay with the collective mothers. Collective mothering is still happening all over the world and only became rare in the modern world decades ago.
The government has entered and disrupted a primitive society. A world where the children have learned to function. Removing them and placing them into another world will result in trauma and non-functional failure.
Educate them on site and make them aware of the abuses in the sect.
And let them step into the modern world of multiple divorces, multiple stepmothers and fathers, multiple stepbrothers and sisters, multiple and temporary cohabitations of parents with children, weekend visitation, drugs, violence, abuse, etc.
Keep the kids out of foster care. Foster care system is a disaster. A huge supply of children are to be had by a large number of physical, emotional, sexual abusers and predators. Not to blame those that truly care about their foster kids.
A 1986 survey conducted by the National Foster Care Education Project found that foster children were 10 times more likely to be abused than children among the general population. A follow-up study in 1990 by the same group produced similar results.[17]
The American Civil Liberties Union's Children's Rights Project similarly estimates that a child in the care of the state is ten times more likely to be abused than one in the care of his parents.[18]
http://www.liftingtheveil.org/foster04.htm
Her investigation shows that 60% of children in the Texas foster care system are being drugged with powerful psychotropic drugs that have not been approved for children. Yet, "Children as young as 3 are receiving powerful, mind-altering drugs."
http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/04/11/13.php
Quote from trendlover:
The men of this sect are the leaders, and the ones who benefit from a lifestyle of having many young girls to have sex with. They would not be revealing under interrogation becasue they know waht they do is not legal. That is why the men offered tobe taken into custody. They don't want their women and children talking about waht goes on. The women and children would possible be more willing to speak of exactly how they live becasue they do not think it is wrong or illegal and they do not think they are abused in any way it seems. They have been conditioned to believe that they give themselves to these men in a spiritual marriage to please god. They are also raised to believe if they stray to the outside world they will be damned by god. These are fear tactics used by the cult. And yes to seperate those children from their parents will be traumatic becasue these children and women now see themselves as being on the outside and in danger of being damned by god. Even though this will not happen, and we know this to be a lie, these women and children truley believe it to be so. That is why it could be so traumatic. A very tough call for anyone to make. Many problems with the solution.
Quote from FightTheFuture:
Take the men into custody and separate and interview women and children at the compound, educate and monitor them there, don't put the kids into foster care.
Most everyone is totally focused on prosecution, persecution, revenge, punishment at the expense of the children and other innocents which will solve nothing.
Other raids on similar sects have sent most of the men back anyway.
Like I said before, this is like a primitive, isolated culture that has to be dealt with differently. The methods the government are using will fail as they have failed with every similar raid in the past.
Polygamy is actually increasing, not dying out. In other words, the government solution only focused on hopefully catching and punishing the wrong doers is not working.