Just to prove gun control nuts are full of shit

[RedDuke]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

...Would a criminal intent on killing someone, committing a mass murder and them killing himself care about it? Not at all. Thus, it would not stop what you are trying to get it to stop.

Most criminals have 0 intention to commit mass shootings, they interested in robbing, drug sales, rapes an so on. Hand gun will give the protection to citizens against almost anything.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from RedDuke:

...But this is my point, certain things are reasonable certain not.

And you're the arbiter of what is and is not "reasonable"? How does one get certified for that anyway?

If we want a serious solution for these mass shooting any ban and background checks need to go along with things that you mentioned. Better school security, at least one or few personnel with a carry, central mental patient DB and so on.

When all these things put together, we will have as good as it gets. Yes, the tragedies can still happen, but the society will be better equipped to respond, and the balance between rights and safety is there.

If all of the above was in place, CT tragedy would have been on a much smaller scale.

Armed school security and keeping the nut jobs locked up alone would all but solve the problem.

But virtually no one on the left wants to even discuss such measures.
That leads me to conclude they're not really concerned with school safety.
They're just obsessed with eliminating firearms any way they can.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from RedDuke:

Most criminals have 0 intention to commit mass shootings, they interested in robbing, drug sales, rapes an so on. Hand gun will give the protection to citizens against almost anything.

Excellent, then there should be no focus on banning a weapon most criminals do not use.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from RedDuke:

... Hand gun will give the protection to citizens against almost anything.

No offense intended but you seem to have a real bug up your butt about rifles.
Why is that?

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Lucrum:

No offense intended but you seem to have a real bug up your butt about rifles.
Why is that?

He thinks he has logic on his side, but has yet to make any rational and logical argument. All he can do is try to pretend his view is the "reasonable" one, just because he says so.

 

[RedDuke]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

The bazooka argument is a completely ridiculous. I ignored it before, but you seem hell-bent on using it, so let's talk about how stupid it is.

The reason bazookas are not an issue is because of applicable use. There's just no market for it. If there were, there would be a way to get it. What would you use a bazooka for that you couldn't just use a gun, or an explosive for? There are no tanks on our streets, and no need for rocket propelled grenades. The reason no one goes for them is because there is simply no use for them. Psychopaths want to kill people, not blow up armor cav units. Get real, man.

I also noticed you still didn't address my drugs argument. This is probably because you cannot.

You all seem to use the argument that 2ns Amendement gives you the right to bear rifles. According to constitution bazookas are also allowed, yet no one is really advocating putting them in hands of citizens, because it is not a reasonable/responsible thing to do. I am making the same point about military grade rifles.

Please list your drug argument again, I must have missed it.

 

[RedDuke]

Quote from Lucrum:

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How about we "ban"/address the psychos committing the mass murders?
That is the real problem, isn't it?

Yep, that is the main issues. They can not be stopped 100%, but we can take precautions as society to limit the amount of "damage" they can do.

 

[BSAM]

DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

 

[RedDuke]

Quote from Lucrum:

And you're the arbiter of what is and is not "reasonable"? How does one get certified for that anyway?

Armed school security and keeping the nut jobs locked up alone would all but solve the problem.

But virtually no one on the left wants to even discuss such measures.
That leads me to conclude they're not really concerned with school safety.
They're just obsessed with eliminating firearms any way they can.

I am just expressing my opinion. Why all of you attacking me as if I am in some position that whatever I am saying is the only truth and people must abide by what I am saying.

Did you even read my responses? I am absolutely on board will all school safety measures that were brought up on this thread. Why make things up?

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from RedDuke:

You all seem to use the argument that 2ns Amendement gives you the right to bear rifles. According to constitution bazookas are also allowed, yet no one is really advocating putting them in hands of citizens, because it is not a reasonable/responsible thing to do. I am making the same point about military grade rifles.

Please list your drug argument again, I must have missed it.

No one said anything about the reasonable/responsible aspect of bazookas. All I said is there was no use for it. If there was, people would try to get them. But we have nothing to use bazookas against, just like there's nothing the average citizen would need a tank for either. But rifles we have uses for, so they are in demand. Pistols we have uses for, they are in demand. What could a private citizens ever want a bazooka for?

You're making a ridiculous comparison.

Here is my drug commentary:

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Make guns illegal, and it's the same as illegal drugs. High school students can find illegal drugs quite easily. It would be no different were guns illegal. Remove the legal supply and people just go underground as a criminal element sees an opportunity for business.

If you made drugs legal, the criminal element supplying them would be crushed, as they would never be able to sell at comparable prices.