Just another day in Chicago

dbphoenix said:
Which this time you manage to address without resorting to mentions of race or color, which is a step forward.

It is not my task to evolve you. But you insist that because you are a "liberal", you are not a racist. This is not, however, the case. Granted you do not sink to the level of the rabids like der and max and club and todd and so forth. But you are a racist, nonetheless.

There are, unfortunately, two types of liberals for this discussion. One is the liberal who takes the traditional view than it is up to the liberal to protect the rights of those who cannot do so themselves, hence the regulatory apparatus: clean air and water, airline and auto safety, safe foods (or at least safer than they would be otherwise), and so on. He believes that given a level playing field, the individual can take care of himself.

But there is also the type of liberal who believes that it is the job of the liberal to "care for" the disadvantaged, the underprivileged, the whatever. This is essentially the same attitude adopted by many slave owners during plantation days, e.g., the "Dixiecrat". It is, however, racist, considering the cared-for to be deficient, defective, even subhuman (three-fifths of a white man). And it is due largely to the inclusion of both under the "liberal" label that has retarded our progress over the last fifty years.

It is not the task of the non-bigoted to instruct the bigoted. However, it is incumbent upon those who do not view those of other colors or races or ethnicities as inferior to call out these prejudices when they see them rather than just "let them go", whether in serious discourse or in passive-aggressive cartoons and jokes. It is only by exposing this closet racism that there is any chance of improvement, as with the Jews in the 50s.
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It does get complicated if you want to slice and dice every word and attempt to read minds. I will concede that using a term to identify a sub-group when that term used to be, and still can be used to identify an entire group can be problematic. I'll work on it.
Everyone, or most everyone says that would like less reference to race, especially those that are politically motivated. These very same people will then breakdown the vote by race, gender, class, education, etc., etc. They will breakdown employment figures. They will breakdown everything about us using these labels and categories. Until we get past that I find it highly unlikely that race will not be a major component to the discussions we have. I would suggest a good first step for all of us would be to not label someone a racist simply because they disagree with another's position on some subject or idealogy. The conversation goes downhill rather quickly when that happens. The cynic in me thinks that this is not by accident, especially with regard to the body politic and their media hacks.
 
CaptainObvious said:
It does get complicated if you want to slice and dice every word and attempt to read minds. I will concede that using a term to identify a sub-group when that term used to be, and still can be used to identify an entire group can be problematic. I'll work on it.
Everyone, or most everyone says that would like less reference to race, especially those that are politically motivated. These very same people will then breakdown the vote by race, gender, class, education, etc., etc. They will breakdown employment figures. They will breakdown everything about us using these labels and categories. Until we get past that I find it highly unlikely that race will not be a major component to the discussions we have. I would suggest a good first step for all of us would be to not label someone a racist simply because they disagree with another's position on some subject or idealogy. The conversation goes downhill rather quickly when that happens. The cynic in me thinks that this is not by accident, especially with regard to the body politic and their media hacks.
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It is difficult. And depending on one's upbringing, it can take years. In some cases, it can take a lifetime.

And you are correct that with all the classification and categorization, seeing people for who and what they are rather than looking only at their features or colors is an almost insurmountable challenge. That business and government continuously seek more effective and efficient ways of classifying us, whether for marketing purposes or something more insidious, should not come as a surprise (the logical conclusion of all this is that everyone will become his own demographic). But if we are to jump off this treadmill, it has to be done.

If you're sincere, review your posts from the past week and reword a few of them without regard to race, color, or ethnicity. It's not easy. But it can be enlightening. Of course, if you don't want to, nobody is going to make you do it. But you're one of the very few down here who puts any thought into his posts, so you may just find it interesting.
 
dbphoenix said:
Which this time you manage to address without resorting to mentions of race or color, which is a step forward.

It is not my task to evolve you. But you insist that because you are a "liberal", you are not a racist. This is not, however, the case. Granted you do not sink to the level of the rabids like der and max and club and todd and so forth. But you are a racist, nonetheless.
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The one thing that I am not is a racist. Who the fuck appointed you the judge of racism?

dbphoenix said:
It is not the task of the non-bigoted to instruct the bigoted.
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Do you even know the definition of "bigot"?
 
Max E. Pad said:
Just another day in the hood, little kid tears apart a dollar store, while mommy and daddy are nowhere to be found, probably at home passed out with a needle hanging out of her arm, i actually feel sorry for this kid, even though he needs a good kick in the ass, he is obviously screaming out for the attention that no one is giving him at home. The kid obviously isnt insane, when he threatens to hit the guy with the camera, and the guy with the camera responds "You hit me with that you are going to lose your life," The kid obviously knew better than too hit him.

And why is it that when this shit happens in the hood no one in the entire store even thinks to stop the kid? Instead everyone just films his little tantrum.

Also i will give 100 bucks to anyone who can tell me the language the person who is filming is speaking.

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LOL. That was awesome.
 
Ex-Citadel analyst receives 3-year sentence for stealing trade secrets

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A former engineer at Citadel was sentenced to prison for three years for stealing trade secrets from the Chicago-based hedge fund founded by billionaire Ken Griffin.

Yihao "Ben" Pu, 27, had asked the judge let him stay out of prison but the judge said his crimes were too serious to ignore.

The sentence is much lighter than the 87 to 108 months that the prosecutor had sought.
Pu worked in Citadel's high-frequency trading unit that makes large volumes of trades in securities in fractions of a second. Citadel developed algorithms to predict the movement of securities and commodities. The algorithms are incorporated in computer programs that automatically execute the super fast trades.
 
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