June Presidential Debate

The basic findings is that many Americans believe that Trump did better in the debate. However the debate is not changing who the Americans are voting for. Effectively the debate (from a voting perspective) is nothing more than entertainment.

Who won the first Biden-Trump presidential debate?
We partnered with Ipsos to poll voters before and after the debate
https://abcnews.go.com/538/won-biden-trump-presidential-debate/story?id=111529058

President Joe Biden turned in a dismal performance at the first presidential general-election debate on Thursday night. That was certainly the opinion of many pundits reacting in real time, but thanks to a new 538/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos’s KnowledgePanel, we now know it’s how American voters felt as well.

However, while Biden’s hoarse and stumbling delivery immediately sent many Democrats into a panic about their chances of winning in November, our poll also found that the debate didn’t change many voters’ minds about either candidate. Click here for full details.
 
This song about Trump's lies is the last effort to screw him. He is rarely lying and often exaggerating. Biden lies often. Biden's surrounding lies every time they are opening their mouths. Lie is the new normal in White House politics today. Talking about Trump's lies is a big lie.
 
gwb-trading said:
The basic findings is that many Americans believe that Trump did better in the debate. However the debate is not changing who the Americans are voting for. Effectively the debate (from a voting perspective) is nothing more than entertainment.

Who won the first Biden-Trump presidential debate?
We partnered with Ipsos to poll voters before and after the debate
https://abcnews.go.com/538/won-biden-trump-presidential-debate/story?id=111529058

President Joe Biden turned in a dismal performance at the first presidential general-election debate on Thursday night. That was certainly the opinion of many pundits reacting in real time, but thanks to a new 538/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos’s KnowledgePanel, we now know it’s how American voters felt as well.

However, while Biden’s hoarse and stumbling delivery immediately sent many Democrats into a panic about their chances of winning in November, our poll also found that the debate didn’t change many voters’ minds about either candidate. Click here for full details.
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A related article...

Do debates still matter? Impact wanes amid polarization, viral competition: Experts
Candidates are vying for an smaller group of undecided voters, historians say.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/deb...rization-viral-competition/story?id=111316508
 
kmgilroy89 said:
Just a few nonsense statements off the top of my head:
-Biden quadrupling taxes
-Post-birth abortions
-Iran wasn't funding Hamas or Hezbollah when he was POTUS

These aren't exaggerations, they're outright lies. The guy is a total fraud con-artist. He always has been though. Biden is showing he's become an old man that's getting more and more senile. Two wonderful options!
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The post-birth abortion was strange but Trump went into great detail about it too...its a comment he's discussed at rallies, speeches, and interviews for over 15 years of his political career when he was flip-flopping from the Reform party, and the Democratic party until it caught on well in the Republican party.

It's a comment that works very well with the evangelicals...Trump will keep using it into November because it helps maintain his popularity with them. ​

Often the LIE goes unchecked and when it came Biden's turn to listen to it...Biden behaved as if he was confused and didn't understand. That type of dysfunctional reaction will make that LIE very believable to the growing MAGA idiots out there.

I have to say, Trump flooded Biden with so many LIES...Biden was too slow...he couldn't keep up and gave up until he could only resort to calling Trump a liar and whiner. Trump's lying strategy was very effective....it stunned Biden into a stupor. ​

Yet, as I stated in another thread...I was a little shocked at what those two were saying and not reacting to...I missed a lot of the debate because I thought I could use my time better by doing laundry and putting dishes in the dishwasher...later I took a shower in an attempt to wash away any dirt from the debate.

I saw two people who no longer should be involved in politics...one should retire and figure out a way to survive further criminal legal problems that will most likely add more felony convictions to his current list of felony convictions and the other should retire and go 100% deep into a new hobby...I would recommend photography.

:vomit:

wrbtrader
 
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ids said:
It is good that Biden is supported by always lying polls and big politicians. We need him to survive at least until September.
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You are shit scared that Dems will now use Biden's age as a reason to replace him ?
 
wrbtrader said:
The post-birth abortion was strange but Trump went into great detail about it too...its a comment he's discussed at rallies, speeches, and interviews for over 15 years of his political career when he was flip-flopping from the Reform party, and the Democratic party until it caught on well in the Republican party.

It's a comment that works very well with the evangelicals...Trump will keep using it into November because it helps maintain his popularity with them. ​

Often the LIE goes unchecked and when it came Biden's turn to listen to it...Biden behaved as if he was confused and didn't understand. That type of dysfunctional reaction will make that LIE very believable to the growing MAGA idiots out there.

I have to say, Trump flooded Biden with so many LIES...Biden was too slow...he couldn't keep up and gave up until he could only resort to calling Trump a liar and whiner. Trump's lying strategy was very effective....it stunned Biden into a stupor. ​

Yet, as I stated in another thread...I was a little shocked at what those two were saying and not reacting to...I missed a lot of the debate because I thought I could use my time better by doing laundry and putting dishes in the dishwasher...later I took a shower in an attempt to wash away any dirt from the debate.

I saw two people who no longer should be involved in politics...one should retire and figure out a way to survive further criminal legal problems that will most likely add more felony convictions to his current list of felony convictions and the other should retire and go 100% deep into a new hobby...I would recommend photography.

:vomit:

wrbtrader
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Did you count Braindead's lies too?
 
DTB2 said:
Did you count Braindead's lies too?
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Yeah, the count was posted in this thread or another thread.

Trump: 30 lies
Biden: 9 lies
RFK Jr: 0 lies (not present) :D​

When they can get all three on a debate stage together...I'm confident that lies by RFK Jr. will quickly bypass lies by Biden but not Trump. Trump is too good at it with his lies.

RFK Jr. will blame his lies on the worm that ate part of his brain.
Biden will blame his lies on just being old and not good at debating instead of admitting the two aneurysm that required surgery caused damage.
Trump will blame his lies on not using a condom when he fucked a porn star.​

wrbtrader
 
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