July Debates

There will be blood. No doubt. But last nights debate flushed out a lot of the policy debate going on in the party right now.

It needs to happen and happen in public which it did. Good.

I doubt tonight’s debate will be so civil and policy based.


Refer to my post above. It is about Biden.

Although it will come at some point, it is too early for Warren to start ripping Bernie down even thought they were together on the stage. She is still courting his voters bigtime and would rather peel them off by having them move away from Bernie before using the machete.

However, everyone is ready to take Joe down right now or start in anyway.

The kabuki dance sequence calls for the progressives to band together to take Bernie down first, and them move on to the progressive intramural warfare later. Can't go much past september though.
 
Translation: Everyone was on good behavior because they are waiting for the others to get on with taking Biden down later today.

There is a sequence to this kabuki dance. But there is no getting the nomination without each candidate having to directly go after the other ones and take them down. And that will be upon us in the fall. Some will already be gone, and some such as the Castro boy, are licking everyone's boots to stay viable for VP. But among the front runners who are actually running for president, not VP, the little Summer of Love will end in the fall.

"I hate Donald Trump more than the others" gets you through the summer. After that, not so much.

Right. Although I got to say that I think Castro stepped into it with his last debate and really got no bounce from it.

He was a good choice for VP on paper before the last debate but now I can’t see him as anything more than a liability unless the nominee is someone like Warren.
 
To add to the above, you will note that Poco was pretty smart for an indian girl last night.

As discussed, there are reasons why she does not want to do full frontal attacks on her fellow progressives this early in the game, yet she has to show that she is ballsy by ripping someone.
So she dealt with it by going after Delaney. That was pretty smart all things considered, because Delaney will be gone and doesnt have any voters to alienate. So she used him for cannon fodder and chance to be ballsy. She played that about right.

It's okay for a summer game. Summer gonna end sometime though.
 
So these debates... just hypothetically here... could Hillary announce tomorrow that she is in and then land her ass on the debate stage for the next round? How's that work?

The reason I ask is I'm curious as to why Tom Steyer didn't get a chance to join the mix this time around. I mean we all love Marianne, but in reality wouldn't Steyer have been a better choice to parade out there for the cameras? Hell he's been running his impeach Trump commercials for well over a year. I would think that with the announcement of his candidacy earlier this month he's obviously planning to go the distance, at least thru the early primary states.
And unlike the other long shots, he's got the bucks so he's not going away. Seems like he deserves a chance to be out there on the national debate stage to let the voters see what he's thinking.

They have to get 1 or 2 percent in the polling. If not, they do not make it to the debates. Maybe, Steyer should have used his monies to bribe those conducting the polls. He would have easily been given 5 percent. Hillary Clinton probably, will not come out till these clowns have destroyed each other! The debates expose how bad their positions are and how the US voters will not support them. When the herd of clowns gets thinned, that is probably, when Hillary Clinton comes out to finish off whoever is left by that time! All the other Democrats running would be very, very weak and easy to beat when the time comes!
 
They have to get 1 or 2 percent in the polling. If not, they do not make it to the debates. Maybe, Steyer should have used his monies to bribe those conducting the polls. He would have easily been given 5 percent. Hillary Clinton probably, will not come out till these clowns have destroyed each other! The debates expose how bad their positions are and how the US voters will not support them. When the herd of clowns gets thinned, that is probably, when Hillary Clinton comes out to finish off whoever is left by that time! All the other Democrats running would be very, very weak and easy to beat when the time comes!
That's what I was thinking. It doesn't seem real fair. Its rigged. So which poll's do they use? And this individual donor stuff... why can't someone (like Steyer) just come out and say they're not soliciting donors because they don't need the money.

So lets all put on our thinking caps here and see this for what its really worth. Ultimately, the Dems are going to get the candidate that CNN/MSNBC chooses. They are. The MSM controls the polls. No, they aren't out there doing phone survey's, but they have the power nightly to brainwash millions and millions of people. They have huge influence. If they come on every night and focus on 3 or 4 candidates, and have them on, and follow them on the trail, and constantly say how good they are doing, over and over... JFK could be out there running and if he's pretty much ignored by the powers that be.... when Mr and Mrs John Q Lefty's phone rings with Quinnipiac on the other end... they are only going to respond with what they have been allowed to see. And told.

Its all bs. It really is. We're sheep.
 
Ultimately, the Dems are going to get the candidate that CNN/MSNBC chooses. They are.
Its all bs. It really is. We're sheep.


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Just flicked on the tube.

CNN has David Gergen on there gurgling away. And he just said "the one thing that women have is moral authority and Kamala Harris brings that to the debate."

Process that for a minute and watch the LED light on your forehead flicker back and forth between yellow and red. Kamala Harris = moral authority. wooooooooookayyyyyyy fine.


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The Democrats are now a party of upper middle class elderly white women showboating about which one feels the pain of urban minorities more than the others. It's absurd performance art. That's why Marianne Williamson gets the most applause every time.

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