Yes TJ, that was my point. Nobody on here ever seems to question what they read if it "agrees" with their political bias.
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Julian Assange: Hero or Villain?
- Thread starter Rearden Metal
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Yes TJ, that was my point. Nobody on here ever seems to question what they read if it "agrees" with their political bias.
Quote from Free Thinker:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/11/30/wikileaks/index.html?jgh=jg
"The WikiLeaks disclosure has revealed not only numerous government secrets, but also the driving mentality of major factions in our political and media class. Simply put, there are few countries in the world with citizenries and especially media outlets more devoted to serving, protecting and venerating government authorities than the U.S. Indeed, I don't quite recall any entity producing as much bipartisan contempt across the American political spectrum as WikiLeaks has: as usual, for authoritarian minds, those who expose secrets are far more hated than those in power who commit heinous acts using secrecy as their principal weapon.
First we have the group demanding that Julian Assange be murdered without any charges, trial or due process. There was Sarah Palin on on Twitter illiterately accusing WikiLeaks -- a stateless group run by an Australian citizen -- of "treason"; she thereafter took to her Facebook page to object that Julian Assange was "not pursued with the same urgency we pursue al Qaeda and Taliban leaders" (she also lied by stating that he has "blood on his hands": a claim which even the Pentagon admits is untrue). Townhall's John Hawkins has a column this morning entitled "5 Reasons The CIA Should Have Already Killed Julian Assange." That Assange should be treated as a "traitor" and murdered with no due process has been strongly suggested if not outright urged by the likes of Marc Thiessen, Seth Lipsky (with Jeffrey Goldberg posting Lipsky's column and also illiterately accusing Assange of "treason"), Jonah Goldberg, Rep. Pete King, and, today, The Wall Street Journal.
The way in which so many political commentators so routinely and casually call for the eradication of human beings without a shred of due process is nothing short of demented. Recall Palin/McCain adviser Michael Goldfarb's recent complaint that the CIA failed to kill Ahmed Ghailani when he was in custody, or Glenn Reynolds' morning demand -- in between sips of coffee -- that North Korea be destroyed with nuclear weapons ("I say nuke 'em. And not with just a few bombs"). Without exception, all of these people cheered on the attack on Iraq, which resulted in the deaths of more than 100,000 innocent human beings, yet their thirst for slaughter is literally insatiable. After a decade's worth of American invasions, bombings, occupations, checkpoint shootings, drone attacks, assassinations and civilian slaughter, the notion that the U.S. Government can and should murder whomever it wants is more frequent and unrestrained than ever.
Those who demand that the U.S. Government take people's lives with no oversight or due process as though they're advocating changes in tax policy or mid-level personnel moves -- eradicate him!, they bellow from their seats in the Colosseum -- are just morally deranged barbarians. There's just no other accurate way to put it. These are usually the same people, of course, who brand themselves "pro-life" and Crusaders for the Sanctity of Human Life and/or who deride Islamic extremists for their disregard for human life. And the fact that this mindset is so widespread and mainstream is quite a reflection of how degraded America's political culture is. When WikiLeaks critics devote a fraction of their rage to this form of mainstream American thinking -- which, unlike anything WikiLeaks has done, has actually resulted in piles upon piles of corpses -- then their anti-WikiLeaks protestations should be taken more seriously, but not until then."
How completely true.
Quote from tradingjournals:
Could you give pointers to what he admitted to? Did he state that he had the affair and if yes did he admit that he was asked to stop?
I could point you to whatever I want to, you are not going to believe it, nor should you. But to answer your question, he did in Sweden admit to having sex with the woman in question and he admitted to the condom breaking. She claimed he then asked him to stop which he did not. Is any of this true? Who knows. That's not the point. It was a backdoor trap to get someone to say it wasn't true in which someone immediately did. And hence prove the point that all this man's actions should be carefully scrutinized. Nothing is ever what it seems. His detractors are all too quick to defend his words and denounce the words of others. Funny how these people can't see the irony in that.
You mean supporters? Freudian slip caused by projection.Quote from Maverick74:
His detractors are all too quick to defend his words and denounce the words of others. Funny how these people can't see the irony in that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
Looks like the smear job is working, on some people at least.... 30 million Americans that go without food? That's 10% of the nation! You are saying one in 10 Americans starve everyday??? LOL!!! ANd you know what?! I'll bet this wikileakster is hiding their food somewhere while he's raping women!!!
Quote from Maverick74:
I don't want you to read anything. I was simply questioning Assange's character. And pointing out to the previous poster that there are people in this world far more deserving of money then Assange. Like I don't know, maybe the 15 to 30 million Americans that go without food everyday.
Quote from buzzy2:
You mean supporters? Freudian slip caused by projection.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
It applies to his detractors and his supporters.
Quote from phenomena:
Looks like the smear job is working, on some people at least.... 30 million Americans that go without food? That's 10% of the nation! You are saying one in 10 Americans starve everyday??? LOL!!! ANd you know what?! I'll bet this wikileakster is hiding their food somewhere while he's raping women!!!
Close to 40 million Americans are on food stamps.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/07/nearly-1-million-angeleno_n_312878.html
One million alone in LA go without enough food. Yes dude, it's a real f*cking problem.
Quote from Maverick74:
Close to 40 million Americans are on food stamps.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/07/nearly-1-million-angeleno_n_312878.html
One million alone in LA go without enough food. Yes dude, it's a real f*cking problem.
Direct result of electing W. In his campaigns to join, it was about what to do with the surplus (lock box, etc) on his exit it was how to avoid total collapse. Voting the right leaders is a serious business.