I bet he is what you are not.
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Julian Assange: Hero or Villain?
- Thread starter Rearden Metal
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I bet he is what you are not.
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Is Scooter Libby mentioned? If no why?
Yeah, but that wasn't the case. This wasn't a case of atomic bombs or anything along those lines. This was a direct response to the epic failure and endless money pit our middle east conquest has been. If it were a case of atomic bombs etc, I'd be with you. However, I feel like it's high time the US citizens found out exactly what they(and their grandchildren) are paying for. I'd like to see the US get the fuck out of there. We can't afford it, and look what's happening. Shit like this going on and we wonder why we have national security threats?? This is what causes them, and all the airport genital gropings in the world wont fix it. I'll tell you one thing about anyone who survives those attacks. Anyone who wasn't a jihadist fanatic before, will damn sure be one after. You can count on all those newly orphaned children to be jihadists when they grow up too. What would make me happy? If we brought all our troops home and put them on the mexican border, because we actually DO have real security threats there, and those don't make the news too often... We'd also save a cool couple of billion every year that way too... This huge deficit and shit hole economy and we are spending billions on these stupid wars for nothing, one that should have been over 8 years ago and one that was bullshit to start with? It's fucking lunacy! It's just as stupid as the bailouts and stimulus bullshit! This country is being shafted by politicians and wall street, and over run with 3rd world illegals. Our problems are at home, not in the middle east. Europe will be mostly muslim in about 30 years if they stopped all immigration today, at current birth rates. If we sink, what do you think will be left of western civilization?
Quote from Hello:
I said it above id be all for this guy if he had released a bunch of info where the government was screwing their own people over.
However there are certain things which i understand must be kept secret, and alot of that has to do with interactions amongst countries. Do you think we would be better off if this guy was to publish U.S. plans in the event of the launch of a nuclear bomb? How bout if he started publishing material in which the U.S. is trying to manipulate other countries into looking out for U.S. interests?
Am i better off knowing things like that and having the enemy know them as well, or am i better off not knowing them, but not allowing the enemy to know them either.
That is basically where my barometer lies, if it is information which is truely beneficial to the general public i say let them have it, if releasing the information is infact harmful to me as a U.S. citizen i say dont bother, so far there really has not been anything released which causes more good then harm for me as a citizen.
Quote from phenomena:
Yeah, but that wasn't the case. This wasn't a case of atomic bombs or anything along those lines. This was a direct response to the epic failure and endless money pit our middle east conquest has been. If it were a case of atomic bombs etc, I'd be with you. However, I feel like it's high time the US citizens found out exactly what they(and their grandchildren) are paying for. I'd like to see the US get the fuck out of there. We can't afford it, and look what's happening. Shit like this going on and we wonder why we have national security threats?? This is what causes them, and all the airport genital gropings in the world wont fix it. I'll tell you one thing about anyone who survives those attacks. Anyone who wasn't a jihadist fanatic before, will damn sure be one after. You can count on all those newly orphaned children to be jihadists when they grow up too. What would make me happy? If we brought all our troops home and put them on the mexican border, because we actually DO have real security threats there, and those don't make the news too often... We'd also save a cool couple of billion every year that way too... This huge deficit and shit hole economy and we are spending billions on these stupid wars for nothing, one that should have been over 8 years ago and one that was bullshit to start with? It's fucking lunacy! It's just as stupid as the bailouts and stimulus bullshit! This country is being shafted by politicians and wall street, and over run with 3rd world illegals. Our problems are at home, not in the middle east. Europe will be mostly muslim in about 30 years if they stopped all immigration today, at current birth rates. If we sink, what do you think will be left of western civilization?
I agree with what you have said 100%, we should not be there and i want out. I agree we have to face our problems back here and i have stated that emphatically.
My comment on nuclear bombs was an exageration, but at the same time... what documents have come out (due to assange)which would be game changers in terms of us coming home? There is nothing i want more then that, but that is not what is being released, instead what is being released is senseless garbage, which can only be used to hurt us.
There was the one questionable video of the guys in the helicopter which you posted but besides that what has been released which we didnt already know, that could be something which brings us home? Nothing.
So then the question becomes "if it isnt helping us, how is it hurting us" and it is definitely hurting us, thats the problem assange is relaying info which doesnt do anything to help us, but instead does the opposite and hurts us, that was what i was alluding to in my original post.
Hero. Of course.
Just decided to donate 10k to him/Wikileaks. Anyone else want to help?
http://www.wikileaks.org/support.html
Just decided to donate 10k to him/Wikileaks. Anyone else want to help?
http://www.wikileaks.org/support.html
Quote from moo:
Hero. Of course.
Just decided to donate 10k to him/Wikileaks. Anyone else want to help?
http://www.wikileaks.org/support.html
Wow. Millions of Americans go hungry everyday and you give 10k to a suspected rapist. You're the real hero here. They don't make people like you anymore.