For the slow people about the inflation in the 70's - The Fed and Politics
Thank you Richard Nixon. #2 on the worst president list behind W.
Thank you Richard Nixon. #2 on the worst president list behind W.
jimmy carter
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LOL - Charlie Beckwith should have been fired on the spot and never buried in Arlington, if he was.
Do some basic research -- the military screwed up every high profile mission they were handed for years back then and the result was to hamstring the sitting President and make us look bad. Bet the "liberals" at the War Colleges are more likely to agree with me than you.
FDR was by a wide margin the worst. No one's even close. How many President's can say they were allied with Stalin as 500,000 American's died. FDR ruined the country.
LBJ was the second worst of the 20th century.
Carter sucked but yes he was a victim of cyclical economic stuff. His policies did little to improve the situation though. U.S. agricultural prices are only now recovering from the Soviet grain embargo.
LBJ was the second worst of the 20th century.
Carter sucked but yes he was a victim of cyclical economic stuff. His policies did little to improve the situation though. U.S. agricultural prices are only now recovering from the Soviet grain embargo.
Basic research.....
Col. Charlie Alvin Beckwith (January 22, 1929 â June 13, 1994), known as "Chargin' Charlie", was a career U.S. Army soldier and Vietnam veteran, credited with the creation of Delta Force, a branch of the U.S. Army. Although he is held in high regard by various members of the military Special Operations Forces, the general public know him best due to the ill-fated Operation Eagle Claw in Iran, 1980.
Delta Force was founded in November 1977 as an overseas counter-terrorist unit whose main mission is in hostage rescue, barricade operations and specialized reconnaissance. Its first mission (the aforementioned Operation Eagle Claw) ended in spectacular failure, not because of any unit shortcomings but due to a malfunction in several of the helicopters and lack of pilots trained in such operations.
You realize Beckwith was almost fatally wounded in Nam.
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The unit was started by Colonel Charles Beckwith in 1977. Throughout its creation, the unit had the benefit of experience from the British SAS.
The unit took part in Operation Eagle Claw, the failed attempt to rescue American hostages from the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in 1980. The mission failed due to an overly complex plan, inadequate Special Operations Aviation training for the accompanying aircrews, a collision between a rescue helicopter and a refuelling tanker aircraft, and mechanical problems with the helicopters transporting the rescuers, caused by a severe sandstorm which clogged the engine intakes and reduced the pilots' visibility to nearly nothing.
After that debacle, the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne), also known as the "Nightstalkers", was founded and made responsible for the transporting of special forces personnel to and from Areas of Operation.
The unit was started by Colonel Charles Beckwith in 1977. Throughout its creation, the unit had the benefit of experience from the British SAS.
The unit took part in Operation Eagle Claw, the failed attempt to rescue American hostages from the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in 1980. The mission failed due to an overly complex plan, inadequate Special Operations Aviation training for the accompanying aircrews, a collision between a rescue helicopter and a refuelling tanker aircraft, and mechanical problems with the helicopters transporting the rescuers, caused by a severe sandstorm which clogged the engine intakes and reduced the pilots' visibility to nearly nothing.
After that debacle, the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne), also known as the "Nightstalkers", was founded and made responsible for the transporting of special forces personnel to and from Areas of Operation.
Major Delta Force Operations....
Operations
Operation Country Year
Operation Eagle Claw Iran 1980
Operation Urgent Fury Grenada 1983
Operation Acid Gambit Panama 1989
Operation Just Cause Panama 1989
Operation Desert Shield Iraq 1990
Operation Desert Storm Iraq 1991
Operation Restore Hope Somalia 1993
Operation Gothic Serpent
(operation that led to the Battle of Mogadishu as seen in the 2001 movie Black Hawk Down ] Somalia 1993
Operation Enduring Freedom Afghanistan 2001
Operation Anaconda
(subordinate operation to OEF) Afghanistan 2002
Operation Iraqi Freedom Iraq 2003
Operation Vigilant Resolve Iraq 2004
So how did these affect Carter's "sitting" when Eagle Claw was the first operation?
Perhaps you should do some basic research....
Operations
Operation Country Year
Operation Eagle Claw Iran 1980
Operation Urgent Fury Grenada 1983
Operation Acid Gambit Panama 1989
Operation Just Cause Panama 1989
Operation Desert Shield Iraq 1990
Operation Desert Storm Iraq 1991
Operation Restore Hope Somalia 1993
Operation Gothic Serpent
(operation that led to the Battle of Mogadishu as seen in the 2001 movie Black Hawk Down ] Somalia 1993
Operation Enduring Freedom Afghanistan 2001
Operation Anaconda
(subordinate operation to OEF) Afghanistan 2002
Operation Iraqi Freedom Iraq 2003
Operation Vigilant Resolve Iraq 2004
So how did these affect Carter's "sitting" when Eagle Claw was the first operation?
Perhaps you should do some basic research....
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Congress and the press raised a furor over the failed mission. Having opposed Operation Eagle Claw from the first, Secretary of State Vance resigned out of principle. The administration prevailed on a reluctant Beckwith to hold a press conference and dispel rumors that President Carter had lost his nerve and aborted the mission at the last minute. Since the publicity rendered him unable to continue as Delta Force leader, Charles Beckwith, a true American hero, ended his long and distinguished military career soon thereafter
Congress and the press raised a furor over the failed mission. Having opposed Operation Eagle Claw from the first, Secretary of State Vance resigned out of principle. The administration prevailed on a reluctant Beckwith to hold a press conference and dispel rumors that President Carter had lost his nerve and aborted the mission at the last minute. Since the publicity rendered him unable to continue as Delta Force leader, Charles Beckwith, a true American hero, ended his long and distinguished military career soon thereafter
Here's a few debacles - Bay of Pigs; that prison they tried to raid in North Vietnam, My Lai, Mayaguez, Pueblo, Desert One, not being able to find the students in Grenada, the Vincennes, that spy plane the Chinese took from us, Mogadishu, Tillman, the Iraq civilian massacres, Agu Ghraib. We lose or look bad.
What do you rah rah boys really think these Presidents say in private - - "oh shucks, support the troops"? LOL, They're fken pissed I'd bet. You think Bush prayed for Lyndi England when he saw her pics in the paper?
Other than Gulf 1 and knocking down Panama, it's been one operational or PR disaster after another.
What do you rah rah boys really think these Presidents say in private - - "oh shucks, support the troops"? LOL, They're fken pissed I'd bet. You think Bush prayed for Lyndi England when he saw her pics in the paper?
Other than Gulf 1 and knocking down Panama, it's been one operational or PR disaster after another.