jesus is god......lmao

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He never claimed he "is God."

At least if you are going to be literal, try to be accurate.

How can "The Father and I are one" be possible?

Are Rush Limbaugh and his ditto-head herd of "one mind" when it comes to their political opinions?
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do you understand your own religion?

"However, Jesus and His inspired followers didn't mince words when they declared Him to be God (John 10:30-38, Matthew 16:13-17, Mark 14:61-64, John 14:6, Hebrews 1:8, Colossians 1:16, John 12:40-41 [quoting Isaiah 6:1-10])."

http://www.is-jesus-god.com/

btw, don't suddenly bring up how can this or that be possible. the bible is FULL of ABSURD claims. you tell me how it was possible noah got all those animals on the ark. lmfao

anyway, don't avoid the question. would you believe him???
 
Longshot, a follow of yours declares you to be sane, so we have proof that followers are often wrong and misread what their leaders say.

I don't take the Bible literally, why do you?

p.s. Still waiting for you proof that Jesus claimed to be God.

p.p.s. Why do you asume I am a Christian?

Quote from Gordon Gekko:

do you understand your own religion?

"However, Jesus and His inspired followers didn't mince words when they declared Him to be God (John 10:30-38, Matthew 16:13-17, Mark 14:61-64, John 14:6, Hebrews 1:8, Colossians 1:16, John 12:40-41 [quoting Isaiah 6:1-10])."

http://www.is-jesus-god.com/

btw, don't suddenly bring up how can this or that be possible. the bible is FULL of ABSURD claims. you tell me how it was possible noah got all those animals on the ark. lmfao
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btw, don't suddenly bring up how can this or that be possible. the bible is FULL of ABSURD claims. you tell me how it was possible noah got all those animals on the ark. lmfao [/B][/QUOTE]


your mom offered to breast feed them all????
 
Quote from Gordon Gekko:

do you understand your own religion?

"However, Jesus and His inspired followers didn't mince words when they declared Him to be God (John 10:30-38, Matthew 16:13-17, Mark 14:61-64, John 14:6, Hebrews 1:8, Colossians 1:16, John 12:40-41 [quoting Isaiah 6:1-10])."

http://www.is-jesus-god.com/

btw, don't suddenly bring up how can this or that be possible. the bible is FULL of ABSURD claims. you tell me how it was possible noah got all those animals on the ark. lmfao

anyway, don't avoid the question. would you believe him???
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The bible is perhaps the most comprehensive book on human nature ever written. I would be glad to debate it's points with you.

You speak of Noah and his ark. I am sure you are aware that religion is a vehicle to teach culture thru ritual, story and song.

Noah was a man who prepared for a difficult time ahead, when others scoffed and watched. Because of this, God granted him and his family the priviledge to begin anew.

Next question?
 
Quote from Gordon Gekko:

if jesus were here today, walking around on earth, could display no special abilities, looked like the average man, claimed he is "god" and created the universe, would you still believe him?

hhhmmmmmmm
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You added a qualifier that was not there when Jesus was alive. He had special abilities. Of course, you have to believe the Biblical account of Jesus' life. If you don't, then no amount of written or spoken material will convince you otherwise. Unless His Spirit has touched your heart, you will not believe. If His Spirit has not touched your heart, you cannot believe.

The entirety of Christianity is based on Faith. Faith in God, the Father. Faith in Jesus as Saviour. I cannot offer proof of the existence of God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit anymore than anyone can prove their non-existence.

But I ask you... if there were a man walking among us today, claiming that He and the Father are one, knowledgeable like no other of the Scripture, healing blind, crippled, and diseased persons with nothing but His words and hands, turning water to wine, and raising the dead to life.... would you believe Him?

And I ask you this because even when Jesus was alive his own disciples, the inner circle, were not certain who He was. John 14:8-11 is an excellent account of this very thing. Phillip, like GG et al, says "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." I can almost hear the frustration when Jesus says, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Phillip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?"

Jesus even offers the guy an out. In verse 11 He says, "Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves." Lol, I mean here's Phillip, one of the disciples, who has seen miracles occur, and he still doesn't get it!

As such, if Phillip, an eyewitness to the proof that Jesus offered as adjunct to Himself as the visible, tangible image of God doesn't get it..... it is not too difficult for me to understand that people living centuries later, like GG et al, don't get it either.

Fortunately for me, and I say this literally and with all humility, it all made sense to me from the first time I heard it.
 
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But I ask you... if there were a man walking among us today, claiming that He and the Father are one, knowledgeable like no other of the Scripture, healing blind, crippled, and diseased persons with nothing but His words and hands, turning water to wine, and raising the dead to life.... would you believe Him?
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i have said before, i'll accept any explanation that can be proven through science. if jesus can prove to me he's real and it can be validated scientifically, i'll start going to church tomorrow. i'll believe any whacky religion there is, if it can be validated as true. but none of these can be, because they're all fantasy. and yes, they really are, no matter what anyone says; i know it (with 99.99999% certainty).

if there is anyone on earth claiming to heal blind people, etc. with his words/hands, they're a fake. i want to see it done in front of me with no funny business and a team of scientists verifying the results. this will never happen because it's all bs. there is no one who can turn water into wine or raise the dead.

why is the pope falling apart? why doesn't "god" heal him? can that guy even stand up anymore? "god" is going to kill his biggest supporter. if he controls the universe, he's doing that. why would he do this? if you were not sent to church as a kid, it's so obvious that it's all fantasy...it really is.
 
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"When I come to my own beliefs, I find myself quite unable to discern any purpose in the universe, and still more unable to wish to dis_cern one. Those who imagine that the course of cosmic evolution is slowly leading up to some consummation pleasing to the Creator, are logically committed (though they usually fail to realize this) to the view that the Creator is not omnipotent or, if He were omnipotent, He could decree the end without troubling about means. I do not myself perceive any consummation toward which the universe is tending. ...but I will say that there is no shred of evidence in favor of there being one.
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This is simply not true. One of the themes of the Bible is that the gospel - and this is prevalent in both New and Old Testaments - will spread through all nations/ethnic groups. This is exactly what has happened and what has continued to happen. As I have pointed out several times before on et, the gospel has exploded across the globe in Latin America, Communist China, and southern Africa in particular. For example, there are at least 80 million believers in Communist China. (And virtually all growth has been done w/o the aid of war or violence!)

I know that the great majority of people on et will say, "So what? Just a bunch of self-deluded people following other self-deluded people." My point is this: if there is a God and the Bible is true, this is exactly what you would expect to happen. God would be building up a huge following of men and women who voluntarily chose to follow him throughout the course of history. And, by the way, almost every nation/ethnic group has been penetrated with the gospel as well.

Again, Bertrand Russell is seeing things through secular glasses. From the Christian's standpoint, God is doing exactly what he promised and is building up a huge kingdom for himself in the shadow of the nations...
 
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