Jesus Christ (What Christians, Jews, and Muslims Say About Him)

[I am...]

Quote from riskfreetrading:

So you do not want to get the point!

If the point is to bow down to an idol, no, I don't want to bow down to an idol.

In other words, where are all the words in the Quran leading you to?
Where are you going with them?
What is the net effect?
I can assure you, they are leading you exactly to where Allah wants you to go...nowhere.

What is the point of your point?

Christ!

 

[riskfreetrading]

Quote from I am...:

If the point is to bow down to an idol, no, I don't want to bow down to an idol.


Christ!

That is not the point, and neither do I want to bow to an idol, nor should anyone.

Quote from I am...:

where are all the words in the Quran leading you to?
Where are you going with them?
What is the net effect?
I can assure you, they are leading you exactly to where Allah wants you to go...nowhere.


Christ!

What you raise is another point, and should be crossed or no crossed when we get to it.

I know that it is the important point to you. While you suggestions are thoughtful, this does not necessarily make them correct. You still face the challenge of correctness that all texts/theories face. In other words, what is the proof that you are correct in your view on addressing the questions related to god.

 

[I am...]

Quote from riskfreetrading:

That is not the point, and neither do I want to bow to an idol, nor should anyone.



What you raise is another point, and should be crossed or no crossed when we get to it.

I know that it is the important point to you. While you suggestions are thoughtful, this does not necessarily make them correct. You still face the challenge of correctness that all texts/theories face. In other words, what is the proof that you are correct in your view on addressing the questions related to god.

Suppose I were to grant you that 100% of the Quran contains flawless scientific facts. And you call this a "witness", testifying of the trustability of the entire book as the gOd's truth, based on its scientific accuracy.

Do I not get your point?

I'm saying this is the oldest trick in the book. The Hebrew idol has book-tricks too. These tricks cast a spell over the mind of the reader like magic. It is not called magic. It is called "science" or, "prophecy". Whatever it takes to impress the reader with the perception that the book is authoritative.

The purpose of the trick is to lubricate the way for you to bow down and get gOd's point. What is gOd's point? You are subject, and it is master. Obey or pay. Believe or be heaved. I'm saying this is idolatry. I'm saying that the gOd of time, prophecy, events, circumstances, and science is an idol that needs my faith to fair well over its Heaven-hating hell.

Where do the words lead? Six feet under...every time. And that's all that matters after all the promises and threats are hallowed and swallowed. The net effect is perpetual confusion and unending conflict.

In Heaven, there is no time, no prophecy, no events, no circumstances, and no science. Heaven is being what you are, and only what you are. You will never know what you are while you bow down as part of a heirarchy. In Heaven, there is only equality, and all is shared with all...all power, all love, all glory, all truth, all knowledge.

Know thy Self.

Peace,

Christ!

 

[I am...]

Quote from riskfreetrading:

In other words, what is the proof that you are correct in your view on addressing the questions related to god.

Jesus rose from the dead.
But this has been buried under bushels of bullsh#t.

So,
I rely on relative reason.
I appeal to one's better angels.
I sell sanity.

The net effect is a key that releases the authentic message of Jesus from the dungeon of deluded diatribe that damns all dopes dumb enough to be duped by devilish dichotomy.

Christ!

 

[stu]

Quote from I am...:

Jesus rose from the dead.
But this has been buried under bushels of bullsh#t.

So,
I rely on relative reason.
I appeal to one's better angels.
I sell sanity.

The net effect is a key that releases the authentic message of Jesus from the dungeon of deluded diatribe that damns all dopes dumb enough to be duped by devilish dichotomy.

Christ!

Holy Batman, Christ!.
Perhaps the Puzzler is possibly a more perspicacious proposition , preferable to present when pontificating on the preposterous perceptions produced by your persona.

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from TraderZones:

AND MORE

Links for the following item on the webpage:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/

History:
1. The Qur'an Attacks ... Christianity?
2. Selling Joseph for a few Dirhams? (before coins were even invented)
3. Moses and the Samaritan?
4. The farthest Mosque?
5. Alexander the Great, a Muslim?
6. None else was named "John" before John the Baptist?
7. Two Pharaohs who crucified?
8. Burnt bricks in Egypt?
9. How many gods did the Egyptians worship?
10. Israel, the Quran and the Promised Land
11. Were they utterly destroyed?
12. What kind of book is the Injil?
13. Jesus was not crucified?
14. The anachronistic title al-`Aziz given to Potiphar [with special gratitude to Islamic Awareness for making such a big deal about a minor point on a defunct web page, and forcing the issue into public attention.]
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The Qur'an in Contradiction to the Earlier Revelations:
Ultimately, the strongest, most serious problem of the Qur'an is that it affirms the scriptures of the Jews and the Christians as authentic and true revelation from God (cf. what the Qur'an says about the Bible), while radically denying central aspects of their message, e.g. the core themes of sacrifice and atonement in the Torah, the crucifixion of Jesus, the deity of Jesus and even the mere messianic title "Son of God" for Jesus, the very nature of God, the fall and the sinfulness of man (*, *), necessity and means of salvation, etc. For this reason Muslims had to invent the unwarranted theory of corruption of the earlier scriptures, even against the clear testimony of the Qur'an itself.
In the following some smaller discrepancies between the Qur'an and the scriptures it supposedly confirms.
Historical Compressions:
1. Saul, David, Gideon and Goliath
2. A Samaritan tempting the Israelites in Moses time?
3. Prophets and Kings in Israel before the time of Moses?
4. Moses and the Gospel?
5. Punishment for future disobedience?
6. Mary, the sister of Aaron?
7. Pharaoh and Haman?
8. A Pharaoh Who Forgot to Die in Time?
9. Was there a second period of slaying the sons of the Israelites?
10. Moses or Jacob?
11. Did Joseph's parents go to Egypt?
12. Abraham's name
13. Abraham and Solomon
Other contradictions in comparison to the Bible:
Introductory remark
14. Did God teach Adam the names of the animals?
15. Noah's Age
16. Were Believers Really Called Muslims Before the Time of Muhammad?
17. The Quran’s Mistakes regarding the Biblical Patriarchs
18. Who Adopted Moses: Pharaoh’s Daughter or Pharaoh’s Wife?
19. A Flood in the time of Moses?
20. Israel, the Quran and the Promised Land
21. The Quran, Moses and the Tablets of Stone
22. Solomon Working with Demons
23. Israel's Response to the Covenant: ‘We Obey’ or ‘We Disobey’?
24. Where is the Blood?
25. Divinely Inspired Ignorance?
26. Which Prophets Did the Jews Kill?
27. What kind of book is the Injil?
28. Animal sacrifices for Christians?
29. How many messengers at Noah's time?
30. Why did the Queen of Sheba come to Solomon?
31. Ezra the Son of God?
32. Jesus reached old age?
33. Did the golden calf say 'Moo'?
34. Did disobedience result in extra commandments?
35. How many messengers were sent to Noah's people?
36. The Progeny of Abraham?
37. Two young men?
38. How many wings does an angel have?
• More contradictions between Qur'an and Bible

this is funny. of course ever believer of every religion is just positive that theirs is the only true religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOKFdsJSeyU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRs-CTEn1yg&NR=1

 

[I am...]

Quote from riskfreetrading:

In other words, what is the proof that you are correct in your view on addressing the questions related to god.

Holy Hologram!

It turns out that the universe is built on grains of sand after all...just like Jesus said it was!

Quote from New Scientist:


According to Craig Hogan, a physicist at the Fermilab particle physics lab in Batavia, Illinois, GEO600 has stumbled upon the fundamental limit of space-time - the point where space-time stops behaving like the smooth continuum Einstein described and instead dissolves into "grains", just as a newspaper photograph dissolves into dots as you zoom in.

If what Jesus said 2000 years ago about how the universe is built is true, then it looks like all of Allah's amazing artifice is in for a great fall! And the fall shall be great!
How did Jesus know the universe is built on "sand"???
Maybe everything else he said is true too!!


I advise everyone to sell all and get out of Allah Inc. immediately!

Christ!

 

[riskfreetrading]

Quote from I am...:

Holy Hologram!

It turns out that the universe is built on grains of sand after all...just like Jesus said it was!



If what Jesus said 2000 years ago about how the universe is built is true, then it looks like all of Allah's amazing artifice is in for a great fall!

I advise everyone to sell everything you have and get out of Allah Inc. immediately!

Christ!

Physists cannot explain even GRAVITY! So they go in lower details to be build a theory/model so that they can impress without proof.

Explain gravity first. How is the pulling done? Physicts only describe, they cannot explain or build fundamental forces (gravity is one of them).

PS: The Quran is the ONLY sacred text that has been vindicated by science, and which science so far did not find even one single statement which is false. The Quran has the challenge open to this day. It has been 1500 years, people come to this world, bullshit, go back to the grave, and have never provide one single fact that contradicts the Quran.

 

[I am...]

Quote from riskfreetrading:

The Quran is the ONLY sacred text that has been vindicated by science, and which science so far did not find even one single statement which is false.

For many years now, New Scientist Magazine has been vindicated by science, and which science so far has not found even one single statement which is false. If you can find even one statement that if false in New Scientist Magazine, then the whole magazine is worthless. But it's not! And you can't do it! Go ahead and try!

btw - How did Jesus know the universe was built on nothing but "sand" way before any scientists even suspected it?

Christ!

 

[riskfreetrading]

Quote from I am...:

For many years now, New Scientist Magazine has been vindicated by science, and which science so far has not found even one single statement which is false. If you can find even one statement that if false in New Scientist Magazine, then the whole magazine is worthless. But it's not! And you can't do it! Go ahead and try!

btw - How did Jesus know the universe was built on nothing but "sand" before all the scientists even knew it?

Christ!

It has to provide 30 instances where it is right on a variety of topics, and which were not known and could have not been known prior to the prediction.

Anything that is written by man gets the erosion of time. The Quran not only does NOT get time erosion, it gets better over time as facts are discovered to vindicate it. The Quran is greatest publication known to humans, yet people do not read it because they feel in the hole in their lower back that there is nothing in a book that emerged first among peoples in a desert. Judging from the feeling in the hole is not a judgement.