It’s not the cartoons– a contrarian perspective from a Muslim cartoonist

[TGregg]

Leftists are cowards. What I want to see is some left wing artist piss in a jar, thrown a copy of the Quran in it and have it displayed at some NY art gallery. I want to see wall to wall coverage by the MSM. I want to see the smug smirks of the leftist commentators when they say, hey, it's just art. I want to see and hear them defend it as simple freedom of expression. Then maybe we can talk about "fevered misperceptions." Until then they are cowards, only willing to lay in front of a truck that they know will stop.

And paid for by taxpayers.

 

[futurecurrents]

I find your assertion that "we brought this on ourselves" to be quite offensive. Multiple U.S. Presidents have stated this assertion is quite offensive. The fairy tale that western nations somehow "brought this on ourselves" due to western nations trading for oil or some type of "interference" in the Middle East is absurd. I know there are a number people who attempt to weave this fable complete with a historical timeline of all the offenses from western nations. Maybe liberals just need to understand that the culture of these Middle Eastern nations are stuck in the 10th century and are still very tribal.

Yeah, why should the Muslims be mad at us just because we killed hundreds of thousands of them for no good reason?

 

[dbphoenix]

I find your assertion that "we brought this on ourselves" to be quite offensive. Multiple U.S. Presidents have stated this assertion is quite offensive. The fairy tale that western nations somehow "brought this on ourselves" due to western nations trading for oil or some type of "interference" in the Middle East is absurd. I know there are a number people who attempt to weave this fable complete with a historical timeline of all the offenses from western nations. Maybe liberals just need to understand that the culture of these Middle Eastern nations are stuck in the 10th century and are still very tribal.

Whether it's "offensive" or not is unrelated to whether or not it's true, no less true than the "savagery" of the Indian coming in large part as a result of the behavior and policies of American settlers.

 

[dbphoenix]

Yeah, why should the Muslims be mad at us just because we killed hundreds of thousands of them for no good reason?

Can't imagine.

 

[gwb-trading]

Whether it's "offensive" or not is unrelated to whether or not it's true, no less true than the "savagery" of the Indian coming in large part as a result of the behavior and policies of American settlers.

Many Indian tribes in the western plains were "savages" before white man even showed up on the continent. For example, punishment for a member of another tribe caught in a raid involved skinning them alive. Read your history.

Not that the Europeans at that time were much better.

 

[gwb-trading]

Yeah, why should the Muslims be mad at us just because we killed hundreds of thousands of them for no good reason?

So explain where we killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims in the modern era. That is a complete fallacy.

 

[dbphoenix]

Many Indian tribes in the western plains were "savages" before white man even showed up on the continent. For example, punishment for a member of another tribe caught in a raid involved skinning them alive. Read your history.

Not that the Europeans at that time were much better.

And many white tribes in Europe were savages long before they landed on this continent. Read your history.

 

[dbphoenix]

So explain where we killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims in the modern era. That is a complete fallacy.

Depends on what you mean by "modern era". The West has interfered in Africa and the Middle East for over a century. It's just taken a while for the chickens to come home to roost. This delayed consequence does not, however, relieve us of responsibility, something the right-wingers are forever going on about.

 

[gwb-trading]

And many white tribes in Europe were savages long before they landed on this continent. Read your history.

Hence my comment about the Europeans.

However I expect you are one of those people trying to make the case that all the Native Americans were peaceful and noble before the white settlers showed up and turned them into savages. This simply is not true.

 

[dbphoenix]

Hence my comment about the Europeans.

However I expect you are one of those people trying to make the case that all the Native Americans were peaceful and noble before the white settlers showed up and turned them into savages. This simply is not true.

I didn't say that they were peaceful and noble. My point was that whites were not justified in believing that the behavior of the Indians was unwarranted. Ditto today with Muslim extremists. Or Negroes. Or Palestinians. Or . . .