It’s hard to understate how poor Trump’s Iran policy is going

[Mercor]

source? Because history says otherwise.

Appeasement failures
North Korea
Russia ballistic missile agreement

 

[Cuddles]

Appeasement is off the table after the last attempt in the Biden administration -- where Iran took all the cash we gave them to spread terror rather than helping their own people.

What last attempt under Biden? You talking about this foiled kidnapping?

You really think Iran is 'even' after we cheesed their nuclear scientist and droned their top military guy?

 

[gwb-trading]

What last attempt under Biden? You talking about this foiled kidnapping?

You really think Iran is 'even' after we cheesed their nuclear scientist and droned their top military guy?

Excuse me I meant the Obama administration.

 

[Cuddles]

Excuse me I meant the Obama administration.

well, in that case, which attempts under Obama violated the deal when it was in place?

 

[gwb-trading]

well, in that case, which attempts under Obama violated the deal when it was in place?

Answer me a question - the Obama administration gave Iran loads of cash -- What did Iran spend the cash on?

 

[UsualName]

Answer me a question - the Obama administration gave Iran loads of cash -- What did Iran spend the cash on?

This whole cash thing is a red herring. That money was originally for an arms deal we were going to have to hand over relatively shortly anyway. It was never our money to begin with.

 

[UsualName]

Either none of the Middle East is our concern (including our naval bases, etc.) or all of it is our concern. Either be a leading power or get out of the Middle East (where Russia & China would love to increase their influence).

The problem is that there is no easy path to abandoning the Middle East without leaving our allies; UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc. in a lurch. If we stay in the Middle East now -- there is no open path for appeasement. Appeasement is off the table after the last attempt in the Biden administration -- where Iran took all the cash we gave them to spread terror rather than helping their own people.

Abandon the Middle East? You act like the Middle East is David Copperfield or something. We have economic iAnd diplomatic interests in the Middle East. They are not Germany knocking on Britain’s door and we are not Neville Chamberlain.

 

[gwb-trading]

This whole cash thing is a red herring. That money was originally for an arms deal we were going to have to hand over relatively shortly anyway. It was never our money to begin with.

Good luck at re-writing history. We gave Iran piles of cash via plane and unfroze bank accounts across the globe. Very little of this money was associated with an "arms deal". Nearly every last dime of the money was used by Iran to foster violent aggression across the region rather than aiding their own people -- which violates the agreement.

 

[UsualName]

Good luck at re-writing history. We gave Iran piles of cash via plane and unfroze bank accounts across the globe. Very little of this money was associated with an "arms deal". Nearly every last dime of the money was used by Iran to foster violent aggression across the region rather than aiding their own people -- which violates the agreement.

Ok, show your work then. Source the money and where it went for the forum.

 

[Cuddles]

Answer me a question - the Obama administration gave Iran loads of cash -- What did Iran spend the cash on?

I'm not answering your question after you've failed to answer mine.

Good luck at re-writing history. We gave Iran piles of cash via plane and unfroze bank accounts across the globe. Very little of this money was associated with an "arms deal". Nearly every last dime of the money was used by Iran to foster violent aggression across the region rather than aiding their own people -- which violates the agreement.

source? Surely we've got serialized bills at the scene of a crime like we did with the "fast and furious" guns?