It’s hard to understate how poor Trump’s Iran policy is going

UsualName said:
The latest in a string of setbacks with relations to Iran is an organized attack on the US embassy in Iraq orchestrated by the Iranians.

This, of course, follows Iran resuming a nuclear weapons program, an attack on Saudi oil fields, numerous sea attacks and detainments of international cargo ships, and of course the central power move was isolating the US out of virtually all Middle Eastern affairs.

And before you brainless right wingers argue for the sake of argument an unchecked Middle East represents perhaps the greatest homeland security threat in the world. We have to have influence there.
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Wow, this post is painfully stupid.
 
wildchild said:
Wow, this post is painfully stupid.
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I saw this and you immediately came to mind.

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Cuddles said:
Here, let me make the argument for you since you're struggling. The US and the UK should not have deposed a democratically elected leftist government in Iran for fear of 'commies' cutting us of oil. The US should not have gone and sanctioned Iran of basic goods. Trump should not have gone and OK'd the assassination of nuclear scientists and generals to make JCPOA unrecoverable. Had the last bit not been done, Iran would not be running into the arms of China.
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Cuddles said:
Not saying Iran is not funding proxy cells...this was to be expected after Trump goes out and killed Iranian generals.
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UsualName said:
Trump is a windfall for the ayatollah. Iran has not been so galvanized around the state theocracy in more than a decade.

The Soleimani killing basically destroyed all of the internal opposition for years.

The prize now is Iraq and we are looking like we will lose that relatively soon.

I get that the Soleimani killing grabbed some headlines and sort of shifted the perception of the reality on the ground but the truth is we are still on our heels in the Middle East under Trump. Iran is in a stronger position today than when Trump assumed office.

They have more ground and moving forward with nuclear. I hear the war drums beating but Iran is not Iraq. Our ability to build a real coalition is not there and there are many players with firm footprints in the Middle East now that can make a war with Iran *unwinnable*.

We are in a dangerous time with very little upside.
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the gift that keeps on giving
 
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