It's going down: Michael Cohen Claims Trump Approved of Trump Tower Meeting With Russians

[exGOPer]

1. Trump could argue he was paying his people to develop info. Just like your argument regarding Steele.

But, you keep missing this point.
As far as we know Trump got nothing.
Hillary got info from foreign agents through an intermediary.

1. He could but he never did and the emails clearly mentioned 'Russian government help' for 'Trump's election'. It didn't say Russian government pay to receive offer. I am making arguments based on facts, you are making arguments based on imagination.

2. How do you know he got nothing? Who said he got nothing other than Trump himself? And the law is clear, simply soliciting info is a crime, Trump Sr. not only knew about it - he announced that a big Hillary info would come in the evening, then he directed others to lie about the meeting by dictating false statements.

3. I am tired of your Hillary nonsense, if she did something wrong, prosecute her, does it look I care? Whataboutism doesn't work in a court of law.

 

[exGOPer]

That is an advisory opinion so it not precedent.
Polling data is obviously distinguishable from the current situation.

Polling data = something of value

Oppo research on opposing candidate = something of value.

Trump and his campaign knowingly solicited in kind donation from the Russian government and lied about it.

 

[exGOPer]

That is an advisory opinion so it not precedent.
Polling data is obviously distinguishable from the current situation.
But it does make a good new argument that when Hillary's people received Russian intel from Russians she should have reported that donation to the committee and that by accepting it she may have committed a crime.

By Mueller's recent standards that could be a fraud against the United States.

https://cg-519a459a-0ea3-42c2-b7bc-fa1143481f74.s3-us-gov-west-1.amazonaws.com/legal/aos/72021.pdf

First you said she paid for the info, now you are saying she should have reported the donation? Is English your second language? Which is it - she paid or she got a donation?

 

[TJustice]

Did Turmp get the emails. I thought wikileaks got the emails. What are you talking about emails for?

I just said, as far as we know, Trump got nothing. Hillary got the dossier info from Russians.

Trump was solicited... as far as we know. Do you understand the difference between solcitee and solicitor?

Tired? you keep bringing up the same arguments without acknowledging simple points such as the 2 I made above.

1. He could but he never did and the emails clearly mentioned 'Russian government help' for 'Trump's election'. It didn't say Russian government pay to receive offer. I am making arguments based on facts, you are making arguments based on imagination.

2. How do you know he got nothing? Who said he got nothing other than Trump himself? And the law is clear, simply soliciting info is a crime, Trump Sr. not only knew about it - he announced that a big Hillary info would come in the evening, then he directed others to lie about the meeting by dictating false statements.

3. I am tired of your Hillary nonsense, if she did something wrong, prosecute her, does it look I care? Whataboutism doesn't work in a court of law.

 

[TJustice]

Yes she paid a foreign spy for the info who may or may not have paid Russians for their dossier dirt. Russians who were probably Putin's spies. Do you live in the states? Are you American? Do you need to register? This is an election year.

You want do ad homs. Fine... as long as you keep a one content per one ad hom ratio I will play that game with you.

I was using your point to surface an issue. It was an argument. Is there a rule about making alternative arguments on the internet?

First you said she paid for the info, now you are saying she should have reported the donation? Is English your second language? Which is it - she paid or she got a donation?

 

[exGOPer]

Did Turmp get the emails. I thought wikileaks go the emails. what are you talking about emails for?

I just said, as far as we know, Trump got nothing. Hillary got the dossier info from Russians.

Trump was solicited... as far as we know. Do you understand the difference between solcitee and solicitor?

Tired? you keep bringing up the same arguments without acknowledging simple points such as the 2 I made above.

Talking about this email

Second, is solcitee even a word?

And yes, he solicited - look up what solicit means. (try to obtain (something) from someone.)

And yes am tired of your nonsense about WHATABOUT HILLARY - first you say she paid Russians and then you say she should have reported donations. You can't keep your nonsense straight - which is it - did she pay or did she get a donation?

 

[exGOPer]

Yes she paid a foreign spy for the info who may or may not have paid Russians for their dossier dirt. Russians who were probably Putin's spies. Do you live in the states? Are you American? Do you need to register? This is an election year.

You want do ad homs. Fine... as long as you keep a one content per one ad hom ratio I will play that game with you.

I was using your point to surface an issue. It was an argument. Is there a rule about making alternative arguments on the internet?

So she paid someone eh? How does that make it a donation then?

Play the game with me, explain the word donation and tell me how can you pay for it at the same time.

 

[TJustice]

This is one possible scenario -
She paid an English spy to get "donations" from russian spies.

You are the one arguing oppo dirt could be a donation... not me.
I am just showing you how weak your argument is.

So she paid someone eh? How does that make it a donation then?

Play the game with me, explain the word donation and tell me how can you pay for it at the same time.

 

[Tony Stark]

3. I am tired of your Hillary nonsense, if she did something wrong, prosecute her, does it look I care? Whataboutism doesn't work in a court of law.

TRUMPS DOJ is investigating Trump and not Hillary yet they still cant figure it out

 

[exGOPer]

This is one possible scenario -
She paid an English spy to get "donations} from russian spies.

You are the one arguing oppo dirt could be a donation... not me.
I am just showing you how weak your argument is.

Who asked you about scenarios? Where is your evidence for such claims? I showed you Don Jr's emails, what's the evidence for your scenarios?

And did you even read the law?

"A solicitation is an oral or written communication that, construed as reasonably understood in the context in which it is made, contains a clear message asking, requesting, or recommending that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value"

Is oppo dirt not a thing of value? Maybe you should read a bit before trying to judge how strong or weak an argument is.