Iterative Refinement

Quote from romanus:

Guava, your reproduction is not accurate.
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Romanus,

I cannot recall if it was you who replicated Spyder's chart of the 20th while it was displayed. If so, do you mine posting the annotations you copied so we can all see how Spyder saw the market? If you are not the one who replicated the chart, perhaps the person who did can post it.
 
Quote from ljyoung:

A. I was not aware romanus, that a spike bar could not be an IBGS bar based on my understanding of the definition of a spike bar, which definition you extracted from Spyder: "Try using Price comparing Close and Open to the High or Low. In other words, Close closer to the Open than to the High, or close closer to the Open than it is to the Low." If you are saying that the two cannot occur together then can you show me where you got that information? This is a request not a challenge.
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I shouldn't have even brought up the subject of spikes as I see now that a sufficient information can be extracted from tapes and gaussians alone. IBGS vs spike in terms of dominance, was just my humble attempt on critical thinking.

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What I was not aware of was that there was a complementarity (if that is the word to use to describe this phenomenon) between a collection of dom and nondom tapes. Certainly there is precedent for such a thing, e.g., on the '5 min ES traverse" fractal, we have a dom-nondom-dom triplet of traverses combining to give us a channel.

Your analysis of the tape count phenomenon is, I know, careful and considered. Do you think this analysis is rigorous? My guess is that you do and so let me blather no more this evening and instead see if I can find an exception to your proposal (I'm likewise sure that you haev tried to do this yourself but let me have a go anyway). If it is correct, it could be an intermediate trader axiom (if I'm using the word correctly).
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Unfortunately I have lost a great deal of my IQ in the past 15 years or so. Going fully axiomatic on this whole thing doesn't seem like the most efficient way to achieve consistency for me. The only thing I accept now a priori is that there exists a correct way to annotate the day's action and there's only one.

I can't find anything wrong with my annotations today. Assuming they are correct, notice the second ff olive traverse beginning 1245. It doesn't look any different from regular, however since we traveled from blue p1 to p2 and p2 to p3 using ff traverse - it would make sense that to stay on the same fractal what takes us past blue p3 should be another ff traverse, which accidetally VE the blue LTL and established p2 of the accel traverse (green numbered). So now green p2 to p3 should be another ff traverse (orange down)...
 

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Quote from guavaman:

Romanus,

I cannot recall if it was you who replicated Spyder's chart of the 20th while it was displayed. If so, do you mine posting the annotations you copied so we can all see how Spyder saw the market? If you are not the one who replicated the chart, perhaps the person who did can post it.
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Will do:)
 
Quote from romanus:

I shouldn't have even brought up the subject of spikes as I see now that a sufficient information can be extracted from tapes and gaussians alone. IBGS vs spike in terms of dominance, was just my humble attempt on critical thinking.

Unfortunately I have lost a great deal of my IQ in the past 15 years or so. Going fully axiomatic on this whole thing doesn't seem like the most efficient way to achieve consistency for me. The only thing I accept now a priori is that there exists a correct way to annotate the day's action and there's only one.

I can't find anything wrong with my annotations today. Assuming they are correct, notice the second ff olive traverse beginning 1245. It doesn't look any different from regular, however since we traveled from blue p1 to p2 and p2 to p3 using ff traverse - it would make sense that to stay on the same fractal what takes us past blue p3 should be another ff traverse, which accidetally VE the blue LTL and established p2 of the accel traverse (green numbered). So now green p2 to p3 should be another ff traverse (orange down)...
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Thanks romanus for following up.

I agree that going fully axiomatic on this whole endeavour is not necessary. I should have clarified what I said by including a domain restriction to that of the 5 min ES intermediate level trader but in truth, the whole exercise is more of a Hessian "Glass Bead Game" than anything else.

It seems clear to me from how you spoke last PM that you are becoming increasingly comfortable with how you are viewing the market. That there is only one correctly annotated chart for any given day is, I would agree, a given. I would not say that there is only one way to get that annotation, but then I don't think you were saying that.

So tapes and Gaussians it is. Let me have a look at what you did and compare it to what I did and then get back to you.

lj
 
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