It does not necessarily contradict my interpretation of dom/non-dom logic. But the Volatility Extention is surely (or at least as I understand it) takes place while the market is moving in a dominant mode. So at some point the market had to have to return to dominance in order to create VE.
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If I understand correctly, dom/non-dom relates to sequences. So, if bar 7 was dominant(the market has reached pt. 2), the next time one is allowed to look for a dominant bar would be after the tape FTT of a pt.3. So if bar 11 starts a pt 3 tape then bar 13 would be the FTT of that tape, but the lower volume makes bar 13 non dom . Bar 14 makes it lateral movement(non-dom). Bar 15 goes up then comes back and BO's of the fanned tape and closes outside of the tape on increasing volume, thus imo finishing the 2 to 3 sequence which makes bar 15 a dom bar.
Yes, on my chart bar 7 shows decreasing volume. But it also shows a VE and Jokari Window signal for change. I can not imagine VE being created while price is moving in non-dom fashion. Can you?Quote from charts:
On your chart bar 7 shows decreasing volume, so I guess you should take it from there ...dom or non-dom, change or no-change ...
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I'd love to see such a bar by bar analysis in real-time, with no hindsight ...
And I would love to be able to do such a bar by bar analysis in real-time, with no hindsight as soon as possible, but one has to start somewhere. You know what they say:
First, you learn to 'see' change. Second, you learn to 'see' change - faster. Then, you learn to anticipate the arrival of change.
It just seems that your bar 7 isn't dominant (RTL break on decreasing volume), so you can't look for change yet ...Quote from romanus:
Yes, on my chart bar 7 shows decreasing volume. But it also shows a VE and Jokari Window signal for change. I can not imagine VE being created while price is moving in non-dom fashion. Can you?
... Regarding your VE observation, I guess you can have tape VE too...It does not look like a tape to me. We already have increasing volume to confirm pt3 of traverse. The only thing that's missing when bar 6 closes is return to dominance. So I asked myself a question: is it possible that the market is moving in non-dominant fashion when it creates VE?Quote from charts:
It just seems that your bar 7 isn't dominant (RTL break on decreasing volume), so you can't look for change yet ...