Iterative Refinement

Quote from Tums:

Lucky you.
I heard he made house calls too. (I promised not to name names.)
Too bad he does not fly to my city.
Maybe when I picked up my Eclipse, I can go visit him for a private tutorial. :-)>

lol Tums :D

I feel jealous though, ljyoung always seems to get Avi8's attention whilst he's waiting in the airport lounge, such is life :P
 
I just received this pm from someone who pretends to be successful (I can only say pretends because that is what they act like)....

"practice practice practice...
hey... you have been suggested/requested/told to post your charts numerous times... hahaha

your loss

;-)>


p.s. read spyder's hint again and again: don't over complicate things."

I have posted my charts. I think I posted almost two weeks straight. THen I asked questions about them. And then, I got, well, you know the story.
 
Quote from romanus:


Thank you for supporting my contention. No where in there is an UNAMBIGUOS definition. Increasing slope? Compared to what? Bar to bar? Intrabar? Over a gaussian? Of what level resolution?

This methodology, as it is being taught, is anything but Binary. It might, perhaps, fit the model of an affine geometry in a Hilbert space (akin to how Quantum mechanics is developed) where continuation and change are orthoganal state vectors.

I do appreciate some of the genius that Jack Hershey espouses. For example, many despisers wish to make fun of his use of the word "gaussian", thinking he's using it instead of the word "normal" as in normal distribution.

Clearly, he's referring to a Gaussian function, something altogether different.

Now, I'm not spewing all this math malarky to play holier than thou. I hope to display my efforts and work ethic. Contary to a recent poster, I am not an individual prone to frustration. I do however, get to a point where political correctness needs to be disposed of in favor of efficacy.

If Spydertrader REALLY is interested in paving it forward (in the way Jack Hershey described on one of the Tucson IBD videos) then he will see clearly I'm taking the straightest path possible to the solution. If he sees a straighter path, that is different than just saying "annotate more", I would embrace that too. Some here have been annotating for going on two years. If they don't have it by now, it's time to try something different.

Now, some of you may be itching to invite me to leave and look somewhere else for the something different. I don't wish to do that, because one thing I am convinced of is that what Jack Hershey developed as a model for the market is INDEED how the markets work. I don't want to go elsewhere looking for some golden egg, I believe it's right here. But to siimply follow rote intstructions, uncertain of my knowledge, guessing as I go, doesn't make sense.
 
Quote from gravitonium77:

Now, some of you may be itching to ...
You misunderstood the intent of my comments. I simply thought that the exchange beween treeline and Spydertrader may provide an additional clarity for you as it did for me.
 
Quote from callmate:

lol Tums :D

I feel jealous though, ljyoung always seems to get Avi8's attention whilst he's waiting in the airport lounge, such is life :P

Hey callmate,
Nice to have you drop by. If there is such a thing as a "Thread Niceness Award" you get it - no contest. Avi8 and I have had our differences but so what. I learn from what he says when he speaks about JHM and that's all I care about. I have to be a bit careful though. He might be piloting a jumbo when next I go for another boring 3 weeks on the Côte d'Azur and decide to do the 'inversion' thingy (hu, ha - just kidding avi. I know you are a responsible person).

lj
 
Quote from gravitonium77:

Can one assume then that when you said: "My goal includes making this process as clear and concise as possible. If at any time, someone feels a post requires additional clarification, please bring those comments to my immediate attention." at the beginning of the futures journal that this is no longer the case

Again, you've chosen to equate easy and difficult with clear and unclear. Now, which of the two sets of words did I use today to make my point, and which of the two sets did you post today?

You chose a meaning for my words that I did not imply or infer. Blame: Spydertrader

Quote from gravitonium77:

Very little is clear to me here. I would prefer to continue asking questions to get it clear. If my pursuit of clarity is getting in the way of what you are trying to do here, please let me know and I will stop.

I don't recall asking you to stop posting questions. I don't have a problem with questions. You have a problem with my answers. Blame: Spydertrader

Quote from gravitonium77:

The implicaton here is that all people learn, understand, progress, and perceive the same way. This is patently false. A child with kinesthetic tendancies CAN NOT learn when information is presented in a visual way. This point can not be made strongly enough. My example here is not meant to an anlolgy of what is happening here. It's just one example. Many individuals, of all ages, suffer incredibly because others don't undertand that each human's neural pathways are different. These differences amount to virtually different languages. So, to say that because some people understood you, that the fault with undertanding lies with the indivual flies in the face of everything that modern behavioural psychology and biochemistry (among other subjects) has taught us.

Actaully, no. Again, that wasn't the implication. Let's see if this gets through. The lesson here is this. If some people can do a thing, then the reason you cannot do that same thing results from your own inabilities. Whether lazy, not skilled enough, not educated enough, not able to learn like the others or whatever other rationale exists, the reason one cannot do that same thing isn't because the thing is impossible to do or the coach is impossible to understand. The reason failure results from one's efforts is do the individual who attempts to do a thing.

Whether valid individual reasons exist or not represents an entirely other question. Clearly, someone who loses legs in a car accident may find difficulty in learning to run a mile, but the difficulty results from their loss of legs, and not becuase it is impossble to a run a mile, nor because their running coach sucks.

Blame: Spydertrader

Quote from gravitonium77:

Where is this located?

Seriously? You couldn't locate my definition after I posted it, at least twice, and Aurum reposted it? You couldn't locate where I pinpointed the exact bars which showed examples, as well as bars which did not?

Blame: Spydertrader

Quote from gravitonium77:

I am fully aware and embracing the fact that my results are my responsiblity.

Alrighty then, let's take a look.

My advice:

Quote from Spydertrader:

So, anyone reading these words should start from this point forward by shifting their mindset.

Your decision? Debate the advice provided. Does this sound like a shift in mindset to you?

Again, you equate its your responsability with 'Spyder thinks I'm a lazy ass.' I don't recall inferring, implying or even posting those thoughts. I have no doubt you have put forth lots of effort. Hence the reason for your frustrations. However, your ability to succeed or fail does not involve me. The consequences of your actions, or the rewards for your efforts, rest solely with you.

The sooner you choose to stop blaming me (which you repeatedly do, while at the same time, claiming to be accepting responsibility), the better your chances of success.

Once again, Blame: Spydertrader

Good Journey to you.

- Spydertrader
 
Quote from icarus618:

Have you been trading live and haven't been getting results or not trading yet and not feeling ready to trade?

No simming or live trading icarus. I did try to start simmming, believing that trying something different might help. Upon Spyder's instructions to STOP, I did.

SInce then I've reverting to just working through as many static charts (printed out) as I can manage.

Jack Heshey, I believe, espouses NLP. I happen to have some fluency in that subject. He MUST know that one of the fundamental precepts of getting rid of learning blocks is to TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. Anything different. WHen people do that here, they get ridiculed for not following the instructions.

I have been reviewing the beginning of the futures journal. I can tell you, much of the confusion today stems from the fact that some of the language has changed. I can't honeestly tell you for sure what a traverse or tree level is.

I can repeat Spyder's words, but that doesn't have me "get it". Again, the fractal nature of the market makes it so that a tree one day doesn't look like a tree the next. I have attempted to look for the similarities and dissimilarities of a what I think a traverse is, attempting to define (for me that means "gettting it") it. So far I have been unsuccessful. Any observations, comments, or instruction is welcomed; from anyone who is consistantly successful.
 
Quote from gravitonium77:

uncertain of my knowledge, guessing as I go, doesn't make sense.

Fair enough, what do you suggest will eliminate your uncertainty and guessing?
 
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