Israeli bill seeks to outlaw denial of Jewish state

Quote from a_person:

It would be hard for them to understand why you limit a concept of zionism to creating of a state.
Because that's what it is, has always been and will always be. Is it that hard to follow the link I provided in my previous post and read the universal definition of "zionism" on the Webster dictionary's website?

a_person,

You should not judge any political movement / any ideology / whatever by the definition. You should judge it by its fruits.

If you judge communism by a one sentence definition (like you did with zionism), it may appear as a nice and candy-tasting ideology.

But when you judge communism by its fruits, you will see it is an evil and criminal ideology. Same is the case with your zionism and the fruits it has delivered. Let's see what George Galloway (member of British Parliament) has to say about a few fruits of zionism:

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Quote from a_person:

You sound like Adolf Hitler. He wanted all minorities to be expelled form Third Reich.
Of course those minorities were loyal german citizens and did not have any intention to destroy Germany or side with the enemies of Germany in a time of war which can't possibly be said about Israeli arabs. And those German minorities did not have their own countries did not have anywhere else to go while arabs have 23 arab states where Israeli arabs should fit right in.


According to the Nazis, no they were not! Matter of fact, Nazis carried the same exact excuses as you are carrying right now to carry the same exact campaigns as you are carrying right now. You cannot hide your ugly face a_person.

Of course when 700,000 jews were expelled from the Arab countries (and were resettled mostly in Israel) you and your ilk did not compare the Arabs to the Nazis, did you? You were absolutely silent.

These 700,000 Jews escaped from the Arab states out fear after your Zionist gangs started bombing their synagogues and businesses. Prior to that, Jews in the Arab world and Iran held Ministerial positions and were considered to be part of the inner circle of many Arab Governments.

Long story short, As Egyptian president Hosney Mubarak said, Egyptian Jews are more than welcome to come back to Egypt and receive full compensation. Are you willing to do that with the Palestinian Gentiles you expelled from Palestine?

When Ahmadinejad, Hamas, Hezbollah threaten Israel with annihilation, when 20 arab states and a couple of dozen muslim states refuse to recognize Israel you don't call them Nazis, do you? And when Israeli arabs demonstrate in support of Hamas/Hezbollah or Ahmadinejad and call for the destruction of Israel you don't call them Nazi either, do you?

You can't even sell this shit in a flea market a-person. The Arabs offered peace and full diplomatic normalization provided that you pull out of the "OCCUPIED TERRITORIES" and allow a Palestinian state to be created and its own sons returned. Matter of fact, the word is that one of the major disputes between Netanyahu and Osama was Netanyahu’s refusal to accept the Arab peace initiative. I fully understand why a Jewish Fascist like Netanyahu would refuse when your like and Bernard call for the purification of the land from its own inhabitants.

Ignorant idiots like you should be banned from using the internet.

And that is how a Zionist expresses his feelings toward freedom of thought and openion.
 
Quote from BernardRichards:

Rationale for expelling all Arabs from all parts of historical Israel. History has proven that Prof. Dershowitz position in regards to the Arabs was incorrect and R. Kahane was right all along!

Debate - Rabbi Meir Kahane vs. Prof. Alan Dershowitz, 1/4
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THEY MUST GO! War is the only solution in this case. "War has never solved anything except putting an end to slavery, nazism, fascism, and communism". Islamism is next ism that is going to be put on the trash heap of history through war.

LOL! Why didn't you say so from the onsit! So you are a Kahana Terrorist! Buddy, the FBI is looking for your like.

This is one other follower of Kahana group "Kach" did;



Event #361 Baruch Goldstein massacres 29 Palestinians at the Ibrahimi mosque; Secondary massacre carried out by soldiers
Date: Friday, 25 Feb 1994

On 26 February 26 1994, one of the Jewish settlers in Hebron, Dr. Baruch Goldstein, a Brooklyn, N.Y.-born physician, shot and killed at least 29 Palestinians while they were praying in the Hebron mosque. Although the vast majority of the Israeli public strongly condemned this atrocity, Jewish extremists from Israel and abroad (in particular belonging to the right-wing Kach movement) expressed support of his actions.

Following these events, Kach was outlawed. A commission of inquiry established by Chief Justice Meir Shamgar found that Goldstein had acted on his own. Some of the Israeli settlers who hailed the attack created a shrine in memory of Goldstein. Others created websites that honor his memory, and a few charity foundations that 'support his cause'.

This massacre triggered the first ever Palestinian suicide attack against Israel

Nabeel Abraham reports:

After three weeks of extensive coverage, most people were left with the impression that only one massacre had occurred in Hebron on February 25. In fact, two massacres took place on that fateful Friday morning. The first was Goldstein's murder of 29 worshipers in the Ibrahimi Mosque.
In the second massacre, 10 Palestinians were killed and more than 100 injured by Israeli soldiers "who continued to shoot at those who were trying to flee the mosque, at those who were evacuating the wounded, and at those who had gathered at the hospital in order to find out about their loved ones and donate blood" (Tikva Honig-Parnass, News From Within [P.O. Box 31417, Jerusalem], March 1994, p. 2). Honig-Parnass reported that over the course of the following 48 hours "an additional seven Palestinians were killed, and more than 200 were injured (more than 100 of those from the Gaza Strip) as soldiers continued to fire at the masses who were demonstrating daily throughout the Occupied Territories." "In drastic measures which have not been taken for a long time, 21 Palestinians were killed by live ammunition from the IDF [Israel Defence Forces] in the first six days following the massacres," Honig-Parnass added sadly. The Washington office of the Palestine Human Rights Information Center reported that in the month following Goldstein's crime, the Israeli army killed 44 Palestinians and wounded more than 800 others.
Humanizing The Victims
The following list of those who died at Hebron was provided by the Washington, D.C., office of the Palestine Human Rights Information Center:

Abu Hadid, Jaber Aref Abu Sneineh, 12, eldest in family.
Abu Hamdiyeh Gheith, Walid Thuhair, 14, one of 10 children.
Abu Nijmeh, Marwan Mutluk Hamad, 31, married, 6 children.
Abu Sneineh, Abdel Rahim Abdul Rahman, 47, married, 11 children (eldest child is mentally handicapped).
Abu Sneineh, Ahmad Abdullah Mohammad Taha, 27, family of 20.
Abu Sneineh, Ala’ Badr, 17.
Abu Sneineh, Tareq Adnan Ashour, 12, one of 12 children.
Abu Hussein, Khaled Khalaweh, 55, married, 8 children.
Abu Zanouneh, Mohammad Sadeq Ayoub, 46, married, 4 children.
Badr, Saber Musa Katbeh, 35, married, 4 children, wife pregnant.
Burkan, Arafat Musa, 34, married, 4 children.
Dandis, Talal Hamad, 24, married, wife pregnant.
Fakhouri, Hatem Qader, 26, married, 2 children.
Gheith, Mohammad Radi, 50, married.
Idris, Mohammad Salim Idris Falah (Imam), 35, married, 2 children.
Jabari, Suleiman Odeh, 30, married, 10 children.
* Jabari, Abdul Haq Ibrahim, 57, married, 13 children (employee in Hebron court).
Jabber, Zeidan Hamoudi Abdul Majid, 30, married, 4 children.
Kafisheh, Kamal Jamal, 13.
Karaki, Diab Abdul Latif, 20, only supporter for family.
Karaki, Khaled Hamzi, 19.
Marakeh, Mohammad Kifah Abdul Mu’az, 12.
*Mojahed, Nimer Mohammad Nimer, 30, married, 3 children.
Muhtasib, Wael Salah Abed, 29, married, 3 children.
Muhtasib, Nour ad-Din Ibrahim, 20, father sick.
*Natsheh, Jamil Ayed Abdul Fattah (Muezzin), 50, married, 13 children.
Natsheh, Raed Hassan, 20, eldest child.
Rajabi, Rami Arafat, 12.
Zahded, Sufian Barakat, 20.
(Information from the Hebron Graduates Union, except for persons starred, which is from fieldwork
 
Quote from sameeh55:

This massacre triggered the first ever Palestinian suicide attack against Israel


sameeh55,

This is interesting. According to you, the first Palestinian suicide terrorist attack was a result of a prior Jewish terrorist attack of 26 Feb 1994 which killed 29 Palestinians (+10 by soldiers).

I would like to know on which day (I assume it was year 1994) this first suicide attack took place and how many people were killed as a result of it. Could someone provide me with these answers please? A link would do.

Thanks
 
Quote from Tresor:

sameeh55,

This is interesting. According to you, the first Palestinian suicide terrorist attack was a result of a prior Jewish terrorist attack of 26 Feb 1994 which killed 29 Palestinians (+10 by soldiers).

I would like to know on which day (I assume it was year 1994) this first suicide attack took place and how many people were killed as a result of it. Could someone provide me with these answers please? A link would do.

Thanks

History of attacks

The first Palestinian suicide attack in Israel killed eight people in April 1994 in the centre of Afula.

Hamas said it carried out the attack in response to the killing of 29 praying Muslims in February of that year by Jewish settler Baruch Goldstein in the West Bank city of Hebron.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3256858.stm
 
Quote from Tresor:

sameeh55,

This is interesting. According to you, the first Palestinian suicide terrorist attack was a result of a prior Jewish terrorist attack of 26 Feb 1994 which killed 29 Palestinians (+10 by soldiers).
Every time you listen to our resident Islamonazi he makes a fool of you. Yet you keep listening...

The Mehola Junction bombing (also known as the Beit El bombing, literally, the House of God bombing) was the first suicide attack against Israelis by Palestinian militants. It occurred on April 16, 1993.
 

Hmmmmmmmmm! Let me see! BBC or wikipedia...BBC or wikipedia...BBC or wikipedia!

Such a hard call a_person. I guess your Zionist wikipedia source trumps BBC. You win!
 
Quote from a_person:

Every time you listen to our resident Islamonazi he makes a fool of you. Yet you keep listening...
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Let me decide who makes fool of me and who doesn't.

Sameeh55's source (BBC) differs from your source (wikipedia). Please let me decide (after a little research) which source is right.

Regards
 
OK,

There are many disagreements over what the first suicide attack was on the net. I wrote an e-mail to Mr Galloway :D

Hope he gives me the feedback thus confirming / denying BBC or wikipedia.

I will guys let you know as soon as he writes back.

Regards
 
Quote from Tresor:

There are many disagreements over what the first suicide attack was on the net. I wrote an e-mail to Mr Galloway
There are no disagreements, the first Palestinian suicide attack preceded the crime committed by Baruch Goldstein. It took place in 1993 and Hamas claimed responsibility for it.
The Jerusalem Post on Dec. 24, 1993: "About a dozen suicide bombings have been attempted since the PLO-Israel accord was signed in September."


Not that it matters anyway as the Arabs had committed thousands of regular (non-suicide) terror attacks and murdered tens of thousands of Israeli civilians since Israel was established.

Besides a crime (heinous as it was) committed by one jew and virtually unanimously, unambiguously and loudly condemned and denounced by the entire world Jewry is NOT an excuse for thousands of suicide and non-suicide terror attacks against civilians.

PS Galloway is a lying hateful degenerate, the biggest anti-semite and Israel-hater in the UK (or perhaps Europe). Find yourself another "unbiased" source.
George Galloway: Describing himself as "being on the anti-imperialist left," Galloway ranks among the most impassioned advocates of the de facto alliance that has been forged between Western leftists and radical Islamists
* Admirer of Saddam Hussein, Fidel Castro, and Joseph Stalin
* Illegally reveived millions of dollars stolen from the United Nations Oil-For-Food Program, in exchange for his public denunciations of the UN sanctions against Iraq
 
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