Israel putting forth 'unprecedented' concessions toward peace

Quote from Tresor:

In this case the international law decides.
When international law is able to defend Israel against wars, threats, non-recognition, rocket attacks, intifadas, terror attacks etc as the law should, perhaps then it will be taken seriously. Right now all this toothless and one-sided international law is not worth the paper it's written on.
 
Quote from Mercor:

One issue is that Israel allows Arabs to live on their soil, but the Palestinans will not allow a single Jew to live on its territory.

With all due respect Mercor, but it seems that you are very good at twisting the truth. The following is the truth:

1- Palestinians living in Israel never left their homes, It is Israel who came and expelled the vast majority of them and built itself over their 500+ towns and villages
2- The West Bank is an occupied territories. The Fourth Geneva convention prohibits an occupying power from transferring citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit an occupying power from undertaking permanent changes in the occupied area unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population.
The establishment of settlements results in the violation of the rights of Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe the right to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement.
3- The Palestinians who stayed behind in Israel are citizens of that country, not a foreign one. They follow the law of the land of the state of Israel, they pay their share of the taxes to the state of Israel and contribute to the progress of the state of Israel. The West Bank settlers, on the other hand, are not Palestinian citizens but rather citizens of the state of Israel, pay their taxes to the state of Israel, do not follow the law of the Palestinian Authority. Their contribution are summed up in dissecting the West Bank into 28 sealed enclaves, steeling their water resources, steeling their most fertile land and homes and turning their towns and villages into big open air jails as in the example of Qalqilia and Beith Lahem, Nablis, Ramallah, Beereh, Jenin, East Jerusalm.


20% of Israel's population is Arab. If the Palestinans would allow the same mix of population then it would be easier to draw boundries.

You are again twisting the truth. The Palestinian population in Israel is 12%, not 20%.

Regards,

Sameeh
 
Quote from sameeh55:


The Fourth Geneva convention
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The Hague Regulations prohibit

The arrogance of this tribe is simply stunning. They start wars, they murder, riot, rape, behead, kidnap, blow up children, hang women, execute gays, lynch so-called collaborators without a trial, ban and persecute other religions...And the next minute they turn around as if nothing happened and make demands on the rest of the world to respect international laws and their religious feelings. Unfuckingbelievable.
 
Quote from a_person:

The arrogance of this tribe is simply stunning. They start wars, they murder, riot, rape, behead, kidnap, blow up children, hang women, execute gays, lynch so-called collaborators without a trial, ban and persecute other religions...And the next minute they turn around as if nothing happened and make demands on the rest of the world to respect international laws and their religious feelings. Unfuckingbelievable.

Yeah a_person, the same Fourth Geneva convention that was created after WWII to prevent events that happened against your people from hap pining again. Little that the world knew, the people that the Fourth Geneva convention was created for are the same people who are now and in the past commit and committed crimes identical to the Nazis. From the Assassination of UN mediator Count Folke Bernadotte in September 17, 1948 by the Stern Gang was on orders of Shamir to sabotage UN efforts to create a Palestinian state, to the assassination of Lord Moyne on November 6, 1944 under orders from Yitzhak Shamir whereby terrorists of the Stern Gang shot Lord Moyne who happened to be the British resident minister in an attempt to drive the British from Palestine, to the The King David massacre, July 22, 1946 whereby Begin's Irgun terrorists, with encouragement from Ben-Gurion’s Hagana, blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem , murdering 92 for the purpose of Destroying British records that proved the highest members of the Zionist government backed anti-British terrorism, to the kidnapping and hanging of British sergeants in July 12, 1947 whereby Begin, Shamir, and Haganah authorized the booby trapping of their bodies and mining the area to the many letters and packages containing bombs Shamir sent to British officials to the brutal floggings of British soldiers) by Jewish terrorists to the The Semiramis Hotel massacre in January 5, 1948 whereby Jewish Agency leader David Ben-Gurion and Haganah leaders blew up the Hotel in Jerusalem, killing 20 and wounding 17 in an attempt to terrorize the Palestinians to the assassination of UN mediator Count Folke Bernadotte in September 17, 1948 which was ordered by Shamir to sabotage UN efforts to create a Palestinian state to the massacre of massacre at Dawayma (killed between 80 and 100 men, women, and children), to the massacre at Kibya (killed 75 innocent men, women, and children primarily by locking families in their homes and blowing them up), to the massacre of Kafr Kassim (Killed 51 men, women, and children as they returned to their villages in the evening after work), to the 700+ towns and villages that were ethnically cleansed by the Zionist Hagana and Irgun gangs. The list of crimes continue a_person. The list of crimes that does not include the hundreds of other massacres that took place from that date until our present time.

Regards,

Sameeh
 
Quote from sameeh55:

Yeah a_person, the same Fourth Geneva convention that was created after WWII to prevent events that happened against your people from happining again.
Exactly, and it obviously failed as it did not prevent your tribes from invading Israel repeatedly and trying to wipe it off the map. It's the might of the Israeli military and the sacrifices of the jewish people that prevented that from happening, not international law, not the international community which was watching indifferently as 3-6 arab armies with the support of the rest of the arab/muslim world were trying to finish what Hitler had started.

But that the arabs and muslims who are the most intolerant people and the worst abusers of human rights and internatinal laws on the planet make demands on others is truly rich.
 
Quote from a_person:

The arrogance of this tribe is simply stunning. They start wars, they murder, riot, rape, behead, kidnap, blow up children, hang women, execute gays, lynch so-called collaborators without a trial, ban and persecute other religions...And the next minute they turn around as if nothing happened and make demands on the rest of the world to respect international laws and their religious feelings. Unfuckingbelievable.

They do suck, little doubt about that... I love it the way Israel finds ways to screw with them.. they put up check points and make it take hours to go a short distance to their jobs, shut off the electricity... how Palestinians can just continually be the biggest assholes on the planet is pretty puzzling....
 
If the Palestinians were serious about making a peace agreement with Israel, this matter would have been settled long ago. They care more about the destruction of Israel rather than bettering their lives and living in peace.
 
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