Islam on campus

[dbphoenix]

Some Muslims will kill you...

So will some Christians.

Scott Esk, a Republican Tea Party candidate in Oklahoma, got into a debate on Facebook last summer in which he advocated killing homosexuals.

“I think we would be totally in the right to do it,” Esk wrote in comments uncovered by Oklahoma journalist Rob Morris. “That goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I’m largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.”

 

[Ricter]

So will some Christians.

Scott Esk, a Republican Tea Party candidate in Oklahoma, got into a debate on Facebook last summer in which he advocated killing homosexuals.

“I think we would be totally in the right to do it,” Esk wrote in comments uncovered by Oklahoma journalist Rob Morris. “That goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I’m largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.”

To be fair, with him it's still just talk.

 

[dbphoenix]

To be fair, with him it's still just talk.

With him, perhaps. But with others, it's gone way past talk.

 

[fhl]

Scott Esk, terrible.

Margaret Sanger, hero to the left.

 

[gwb-trading]

So basically, your objection is to living in a democracy where religious people are allowed to participate. I could list a dozen idiotic things liberal democrats, or conservative republicans for that matter, have forced on me that I don't like.

The obvious difference is muslims will kill you if you violate their rules.

No... I am opposed to living in a democracy where conservative religious people impose their extreme values on me in a western country. If we allow one group to impose their values, then being a democracy we must allow every religion to impose their values on our community. By extension this includes allowing Muslims to impose Sharia law on my family. I actually don't see much difference between Sharia law and what conservative Christian groups (or conservative Jews) want to impose on my community. Pretty much their rules are the same (e.g. women are chattel who should be kept uneducated & married off at a very young age, no alcohol, no PDA, no "offensive" art, etc.).

Members of the conservative Christian Army of God group attacked abortion doctors while firebombing their clinics across the U.S. when they were not busy firebombing bars - Are you sure that Muslims are the only people who will kill you if you violate their rules. You can go watch the HBO documentary film Soldiers in The Army of God (2000) to find out more about this fine conservative Christian organization.

If you ask me if Islamic extremism or Christian extremism is bigger problem in the modern era... I will tell you the obvious answer is Islamic extremism. The "no-go" zones in many European cities is an example of the problem when a religion imposes its values on a western country. However neither of these (Islamic or Christian extremism) are acceptable - nor is any religious group imposing their extreme values on the community acceptable. There is a difference between participating in the Democratic process as an adherent of a religion, and twisting the Democratic process to impose your religious values on others (like making your town a "no-go" zone).

 

[gwb-trading]

"if we allow one group to impose their values, then being a democracy we must allow every religion to impose their values on our community."

School district cancels Bible giveaway after Satanic Church threatens to hand out satanic coloring books

Florida schools bow to Satanic coloring book and cancel Bible distribution event
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/...ing-book-and-cancel-bible-distribution-event/

 

[Spike Trader]

Florida is one fucked-up place..

 

[der_kommissar]

Florida is one fucked-up place..

Which place isn't "fucked up" these days? Liberal, conservative or otherwise in between...

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

"if we allow one group to impose their values, then being a democracy we must allow every religion to impose their values on our community."

School district cancels Bible giveaway after Satanic Church threatens to hand out satanic coloring books

Florida schools bow to Satanic coloring book and cancel Bible distribution event
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/...ing-book-and-cancel-bible-distribution-event/

Your claim that if we allow one group to "impose" its values, we must allow all, makes no sense. The only group that is imposing its values now are radical secularists and atheists who object to any and all traditional Christian displays. They have to use activist federal judges to force their values on us, since they can't get them imposed democratically.

 

[dbphoenix]

The only group that is imposing its values now are radical secularists and atheists who object to any and all traditional Christian displays.

. . . any and all traditional Christian displays which impose traditional Christian values.