ISIS territory before Trump took office and 1 year later.

so who then would give a shit what you say. you are a paid dnc troll who does not realize obama an clinton armed Isis when they were arming moderates in Syria.

even newsweek has to admit some of the the moderates the us armed were ISIS and that 90 percent of ISIS weapons came because the US broke international law to ship arms into syria.

and by the way this article from newsweek is far more charitable to Obama and Clinton than others I have read.

Obama Clinton and the CIA armed ISIS... and pretty much created them with their misdeeds.

ISIS emerged out of Al-Qaeda in Iraq and other jihadi groups in the wake of the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq and overthrow of its leader, President Saddam Hussein. After announcing its establishment in 2013, ISIS spread into Syria to take advantage of the ongoing war between the Syrian military and the rebel and jihadi groups trying to overthrow it since 2011. In Syria’s conflict, the U.S. had been supplying arms to insurgents opposed to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad since at least 2012 and, when ISIS began rapidly seizing territory in 2013 and 2014, many U.S.-armed rebel groups were either defeated by the incoming militants or joined them. ISIS reportedly received most of its initial supplies by overtaking Russia-backed Syrian and U.S.-backed Iraqi military positions, but later vastly received a massive boost from the U.S.’s effort to overthrow Assad.

As ISIS began to take nearly half the country, the U.S. continued to train and equip Syrian rebels, using local allies like Jordan and Turkey as intermediaries. In its report, Conflict Armaments Group included dozens of photographs of EU-manufactured weapons believed to have been procured by the U.S. and Saudi Arabia, shipped to Syrian rebels and later obtained by ISIS, which moved them between Iraq and Syria. These included a powerful anti-tank missile launcher bought from a Bulgarian manufacturer by the U.S. Army and wielded by ISIS only weeks later.

http://www.newsweek.com/how-isis-got-weapons-us-used-them-take-iraq-syria-748468

So your evidence that Obama armed ISIS was that defeated rebel groups arms fell into ISIS hands?

This is what you call 'Newsweek' had to admit? Do you even read your own links?
 
for those who can't comprehend facts due to leftist brain...

"In Syria’s conflict, the U.S. had been supplying arms to insurgents opposed to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad since at least 2012 and, when ISIS began rapidly seizing territory in 2013 and 2014, many U.S.-armed rebel groups were either defeated by the incoming militants or joined them. ISIS reportedly received most of its initial supplies by overtaking Russia-backed Syrian and U.S.-backed Iraqi military positions, but later vastly received a massive boost from the U.S.’s effort to overthrow Assad"


So your evidence that Obama armed ISIS was that defeated rebel groups arms fell into ISIS hands?

This is what you call 'Newsweek' had to admit? Do you even read your own links?
 
for those who can't comprehend facts due to leftist brain...

"In Syria’s conflict, the U.S. had been supplying arms to insurgents opposed to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad since at least 2012 and, when ISIS began rapidly seizing territory in 2013 and 2014, many U.S.-armed rebel groups were either defeated by the incoming militants or joined them. ISIS reportedly received most of its initial supplies by overtaking Russia-backed Syrian and U.S.-backed Iraqi military positions, but later vastly received a massive boost from the U.S.’s effort to overthrow Assad"

And?

Obama armed people who FOUGHT ISIS - IF any of them joined ISIS LATER, it's NOT the same thing as saying Obama armed ISIS because they were NOT ISIS at the time he was arming them

To the small right wing brain, simple matters of logic and reasoning are unheard of since those courses are not taught at Trump University.
 
he was arming moderate terrorists to fight Assad. some of them were already al queda. he was illegally purchasing large amounts of weapons and sending them into syria with these terrorists. Some of these terrorists became Isis.

apparently people warned him of this. If you read the articles he said he did not want to do it either but went along.

You arm terrorists some are going to turn against you.
90 percent of Isis weapons got there because of Obama Clinton and the CIA sent them there illegally.



And?

Obama armed people who FOUGHT ISIS - IF any of them joined ISIS LATER, it's NOT the same thing as saying Obama armed ISIS because they were NOT ISIS at the time he was arming them

To the small right wing brain, simple matters of logic and reasoning are unheard of since those courses are not taught at Trump University.
 
he was arming moderate terrorists to fight Assad. some of them were already al queda. he was illegally purchasing large amounts of weapons and sending them into syria with these terrorists. Some of these terrorists became Isis.

Everybody with brain realizes that can turn out to be a disaster. and apparently people warned him of this. If you read the articles he said he did not want to do it either. You arm terrorists some are going to turn against you.
Apparently 90 percent of Isis weapons got there because of Obama Clinton and the CIA.

'SOME' of them became terrorists - however MANY of them fought against ISIS and this is how the war over there was won, if you don't support the locals in a war against terrorism because SOME may turn out to be bad apples then you have ZERO chance to win.

Obama's strategy is what won the war against ISIS, it was so good that Trump is following it to tee, local Iraqis are still being trained and armed against ISIS and after the war some may turn against the US - that wouldn't make me or anyone with a brain say that Trump armed terrorists like you Cons.
 
did obama do that?
I thought he was arming moderate rebels in Syria who became Isis.?

Your ideas are pretty ignorant in nature. The Iraq War was a major contributor to new terrorism in the area, a war started by George W. Bush. If you understood history, the US has armed numerous regimes and their leaders at various points including Iraq and Osama Bin Laden.

You are of course welcome to remain ignorant in your beliefs. Blaming Obama for any number of problems the US faces today isn't going to solve your problems. In fact, George W. Bush and friends were directly responsible for far more of today's US issues then Obama ever was. This is true with respect to your economic crash in 2008/2009, your ballooning federal deficit, and how Middle Eastern terrorist groups motivate themselves and recruit members. Misunderstanding the root cause of your problems will not help you solve them; in fact, it may allow you to repeat your mistakes.

Your legacy to your children is not pretty. Try being less selfish in your beliefs and educate yourself about these issues instead of promoting bs on this site.
 
Your ideas are pretty ignorant in nature. The Iraq War was a major contributor to new terrorism in the area, a war started by George W. Bush. If you understood history, the US has armed numerous regimes and their leaders at various points including Iraq and Osama Bin Laden.

You are of course welcome to remain ignorant in your beliefs. Blaming Obama for any number of problems the US faces today isn't going to solve your problems. In fact, George W. Bush and friends were directly responsible for far more of today's US issues then Obama ever was. This is true with respect to your economic crash in 2008/2009, your ballooning federal deficit, and how Middle Eastern terrorist groups motivate themselves and recruit members. Misunderstanding the root cause of your problems will not help you solve them; in fact, it may allow you to repeat your mistakes.

Your legacy to your children is not pretty. Try being less selfish in your beliefs and educate yourself about these issues instead of promoting bs on this site.

But haven't you heard, none of these guys like Bush anymore - just like they won't like Trump after his term. Trump who? Never voted for him, never liked him, never supported him! He was a RINO, he used to be a Democrat!
 
1. http://www.thetimesherald.com/story...illary-clinton-libyas-slave-markets/108092154

Obama and Clinton are responsible for Libya slave markets and a flood of refugees.

2. Obama did the same in Syria. I have already presented links here on et multiple times... with source from outside the US.


3, Obama gave billions to Iran... and has given them cover to become the next North Korea.

5. I said nothing about Bush. So you whataboutbushism... is not going to work here.
I think bush sucked too.

so rather than coming here ignorantly making assumptions about what I think...
try bringing up facts or asking questions. but I will tell you. ...

Bush's execution of that war was so terrible it had to be by design. which calls into question his motivations.

I tend to suspect Moore was onto something in his movie about how crooked or stupid bush was.... .


Your ideas are pretty ignorant in nature. The Iraq War was a major contributor to new terrorism in the area, a war started by George W. Bush. If you understood history, the US has armed numerous regimes and their leaders at various points including Iraq and Osama Bin Laden.

You are of course welcome to remain ignorant in your beliefs. Blaming Obama for any number of problems the US faces today isn't going to solve your problems. In fact, George W. Bush and friends were directly responsible for far more of today's US issues then Obama ever was. This is true with respect to your economic crash in 2008/2009, your ballooning federal deficit, and how Middle Eastern terrorist groups motivate themselves and recruit members. Misunderstanding the root cause of your problems will not help you solve them; in fact, it may allow you to repeat your mistakes.

Your legacy to your children is not pretty. Try being less selfish in your beliefs and educate yourself about these issues instead of promoting bs on this site.
 
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But haven't you heard, none of these guys like Bush anymore - just like they won't like Trump after his term. Trump who? Never voted for him, never liked him, never supported him! He was a RINO, he used to be a Democrat!
Yep, Hannity, Limbaugh, Ingraham, et al. pivot to Anti Establishment, Anti Immigation, Anti Corporation, Deep State and on and on and all the dip shits follow..If you did a search of some of these Con posters when Bush was Prez, it's laughable. Incomprehensible demoralization.
 
I turned on Bush when he tried to put a steath liberal onto the supreme court the way his dad did and when he tried to have middle easterners in charge of the security at our ports.

and you all are right in a way..

when you realize you cant trust democrat polticians to get the job done and you can't trust establishment politicians to get it done..
you vote for someone else to hopefully clean the swamp.

We may turn on Trump... if he does not do what he said he was going to do.


the difference between us and lefties is this.
Obama and dems sold your asses out on healthcare.
We should have had govt payer. That is what the left wanted. that is what hundreds in Congress claim they wanted.

Obama and Gruber and pelosi and reid gave you insurance company care...

and not one of you complains.


Yep, Hannity, Limbaugh, Ingraham, et al. pivot to Anti Establishment, Anti Immigation, Anti Corporation, Deep State and on and on and all the dip shits follow..If you did a search of some of these Con posters when Bush was Prez it's laughable.
 
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