ISIS territory before Trump took office and 1 year later.

jem said:
1. http://www.thetimesherald.com/story...illary-clinton-libyas-slave-markets/108092154

Obama and Clinton are responsible for Libya slave markets and a flood of refugees.

2. Obama did the same in Syria. I have already presented links here on et multiple times... with source from outside the US.


3, Obama gave billions to Iran... and has given them cover to become the next North Korea.

5. I said nothing about Bush. So you whataboutbushism... is not going to work here.
I think bush sucked too.

so rather than coming here ignorantly making assumptions about what I think...
try bringing up facts or asking questions. but I will tell you. ...

Bush's execution of that war was so terrible it had to be by design. which calls into question his motivations.

I tend to suspect Moore was onto something in his movie about how crookedor stupid bush was.... .
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More tripe - an op-ed piece by some right wing loon is jem's idea of 'evidence'.
 
jem said:
I turned on Bush when he tried to put a steath liberal onto the supreme court the way his dad did and when he tried to have middle easterners in charge of the security at our ports.
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Yup, jem turned on Bush as early as November 2008.
 
its not the messenger its the message.
obama and clinton destabilized libya and refugees and choas ensued.
there is info and articles everywhere on that.



exGOPer said:
More tripe - an op-ed piece by some right wing loon is jem's idea of 'evidence'.
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jem said:
its not the messenger its the message.
obama and clinton destabilized libya and refugees and choas ensued.
there is info and articles everywhere on that.
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Bullshit. Gaddafi destabilized Libya when he tried to mass murder his own citizens to which UN, Europe and US responded in kind. I am well aware of what transpired, US was not even the main player when it came to leading actions against Libya, they played second fiddle but I am sure you are upset that Gaddafi (a Trump properties customer) got killed.
 
gaddafi was doing a strange job destablizing




exGOPer said:
Bullshit. Gaddafi destabilized Libya when he tried to mass murder his own citizens to which UN, Europe and US responded in kind. I am well aware of what transpired, US was not even the main player when it came to leading actions against Libya, they played second fiddle but I am sure you are upset that Gaddafi (a Trump properties customer) got killed.
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jem said:
gaddafi was doing a strange job destablizing


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And I am supposed to be upset about this? You do know Gaddafi was hunted by Reagan and in the end Obama/Clinton managed to extract revenge. Don't worry, Trump will find other suckers to rent his properties, there is no shortage of traitors in his compound.
 
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jem said:
he was arming moderate terrorists to fight Assad. some of them were already al queda. he was illegally purchasing large amounts of weapons and sending them into syria with these terrorists. Some of these terrorists became Isis.

apparently people warned him of this. If you read the articles he said he did not want to do it either but went along.

You arm terrorists some are going to turn against you.
90 percent of Isis weapons got there because of Obama Clinton and the CIA sent them there illegally.
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RIGHT AS RAIN
 
jem said:
for those who can't comprehend facts due to leftist brain...

"In Syria’s conflict, the U.S. had been supplying arms to insurgents opposed to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad since at least 2012 and, when ISIS began rapidly seizing territory in 2013 and 2014, many U.S.-armed rebel groups were either defeated by the incoming militants or joined them. ISIS reportedly received most of its initial supplies by overtaking Russia-backed Syrian and U.S.-backed Iraqi military positions, but later vastly received a massive boost from the U.S.’s effort to overthrow Assad"
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You are arguing with a very sick individual. ---not just the talking points---
 
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