ISIS and beheadings...

[achilles28]

A person with such sympathies should not be allowed to be POTUS! He obviously doesn't want to "lead" the country... to do that which is in America's best interest.. NOT EVER!

With his animosity towards America, why in the world would he even WANT to be POTUS? One reason only... BECAUSE HE WANTS TO DO US HARM! (That, and the vacations, golf, perks on the American taxpayer's dime, of course.) His campaign, rhetoric, actions... have all BEEN A SCAM SINCE DAY ONE!!

We all know of "Nigerian 419" scams... that's what Odumbo has done to ALL OF AMERICA!!

Not much 'America' left, between the left and right. One sells welfare dependency, the other perpetual warfare. Both have sold us out a long time ago to Fortune 100 corporations. Plutocracy in motion.

 

[piezoe]

Either that or, perhaps, there is something fundamentally expansionary and competitive about Life on Earth.

Naw, couldn't be that simple.

E.O. Wilson thinks so.

 

[PiggyBank]

I think NATO funds, creates, hypes and sheppards enemies of their own design to justify perpetual war. During the cold war, Russia was built up as this frothing aggressor bent on world domination, when it wasn't. Their economic and military capabilities were grossly overstated (besides nuclear capacity). Al Queda was funded and trained by American and British intelligence to combat the Soviets in Afghanistan (Mujahedeen). Osama Bin Laden was originally a CIA asset (Tim Osman). Saddam, backed by America. The Iraqi invasion of Kuwait (Gulf War#1) was actually greenlighted by the American ambassador to Iraq, at the time, which was a setup. Now, with ISIS, they originally fought in Libya supported by NATO to overthrow Gadaffi. They were the "Libyan rebels" we kept hearing about. They plundered much of the Libyan military cache, including 20,000 Russian shoulder fired SA-7 anti-aircraft missiles, and brought the "crusade" up to Syria, where again, NATO happily equipped them with American-made MPAD missiles and anti-tank missiles. After all, they were "rebels fighting that evil Assad". And still do to this day. And whoops, now they're slaughtering everyone they can get their hands on, so media has taken notice. Not such a cuddly little group of freedom fighters, after all?

Truth be told, the reason why Obama and the Pentagon have no official strategy on ISIS is because they don't want to create a strategy against ISIS. They want ISIS to flourish. Yes, flourish. The whole point that eludes everyone is that Oceania needs a credible threat to justify perpetual war. In this case, ISIS is a new credible threat, and Obama and the military industrial complex would much rather keep this threat alive and well, rather then snuff it out in a few short weeks, with crippling air strikes.

Think about it guys. The border is wide open. ISIS are inside the United States. ISIS was allowed to plunder 20,000 shoulder fired missiles from Gaddafis arsenal. ISIS was allowed to take over and control 6 oil fields in Syria and Iraq to fund their operation. ISIS was equipped with hundreds of MPADS and anti-tank missiles, from the US GOVERNMENT. This is unheard of. ISIS is our new Emmanual Goldstein. Bin Laden, the Taliban and Saddam are long gone. We need a new enemy to keep this war going, and we found one - Al Queda 2.0 (ISIS). So lets not stop the party too soon.


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/0...-likely-fallen-into-isis-hands-officials-say/
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/179019#.VAahzbwg854
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/6/flow-of-anti-aircraft-missiles-to-syria-could-land/?page=all
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/18/business/al-khatteeb-isis-oil-iraq/
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/182482#.VAakC7H65eM
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/0...-global-catastrophe-if-unchecked-experts-say/

Just out of curiosity, why are conspiracy theories needed to explain what's going on? man, these kinds of rumors just degrade the actual threat 'radical' islam poses. We can blame bush, obama, or whoever.. but the root cause of all these problems lies within isLAME. I suggest you read up on the wahhabi/takfiri sects of islam. As long as these interpretations (which originate, or were revived in the GCC nations) continue to poison the minds of young muslims, we will continue to clash with them. Then there are the almost as crazy shia like the regime in iran and hezbollah.

While I agree that arming mugs in libya, syria, and probably even now in iraq is stupid, this is not for them to turn against us in some kind of conspiracy. It's the same old govt incompetence that gets discussed here daily.

There is footage of rebels in syria using US made weaponry including anti-tank TOW missiles. It is also true that a lot of those arms are now in the hands of isis because for a long time, they were not fighting the syrian regime, but taking territory from other rebel groups. And because the iraqi army fled and abandoned all kinds of equipment, including stingers, tanks, and even SCUDs. There are many groups fighting the regime in syria, and all the groups that matter are part of or allied with mujahideen organizations. If isis is destroyed, then al-nusra (AQ arm in syria) will take their place, AQ is not gone, they are just out-shined by isis at the moment. We need to snuff out all of these groups, and those who back them. That was the whole point of the invasions to begin with. If not, then we at least need to secure ourselves, tell everyone else they're on their own, and hope isis and iran end up killing each other. Of course, this approach can also have consequences such as a much higher cost of oil.. which is our whole reason for meddling in the shithole middle east to begin with.

isis is not from libya. They may have allies there as they are now the face of the jihadi movement, and there might be guys who fought in the libyan civil war, now fighting for them, but isis was al qaeda in iraq. They are responsible for many American deaths during the war. There are also many Chechen/Georgian muslims who joined their ranks when they became isis. They most likely enter syria and now iraq through Turkey, a NATO member and another untrustworthy ally of the US.

I also agree that it is indescribably retarded that our southern border is not secure.

 

[Scataphagos]

"...I also agree that it is indescribably retarded that our southern border is not secure.

Odumbo WANTS our southern border to be non-secure.

Odumbo WANTS illegals to pour into America to stress/collapse our social support network and to potentially collapse it.

Odumbo WANTS Hispanic criminals to filter freely across our border into America and to commit all kinds of crimes... the more the better!

Odumbo WANTS Islamic Terrorists to flood across our border to commit heinous attacks against American civilians.

That's what Odumbo wants... THAT'S HOW HE BEHAVES!!

AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE TOO PUSSIFIED TO STOP HIM!!

 

[PiggyBank]

^ well definitely his backing of rebels against other ME dictators is just backwards. He opposed the war in iraq but ends up helping the same species of sand ape we were fighting there, in other countries. That is absurd and it is hard believe he is that dumb.. but he just might be.

None of the Presidents in my lifetime have secured the border. It's one of our biggest problems and I will not vote for anyone who won't pledge to secure it.

 

[wjk]

I will not vote for anyone who won't pledge to secure it.

How do we know those who make such a pledge will keep it? My guess is they won't. When the inevitable happens, I sincerely hope the anger of the American people will be aimed straight at DC including both parties and the executive.

 

[PiggyBank]

How do we know those who make such a pledge will keep it? My guess is they won't. When the inevitable happens, I sincerely hope the anger of the American people will be aimed straight at DC including both parties and the executive.

We don't know, but if you think about it - all, or most of the issues during election time are dictated by lefties. Instead of playing into their media bullshit we need to make the border a defining issue, somehow. come election time, the maddows and matthews will be whining about racism, sexism and other fake problems, why do we even acknowledge that trash?

 

[wjk]

Instead of playing into their media bullshit we need to make the border a defining issue, somehow.

It's not just the media, unfortunately. The big money that back the establishment right (and left) want open borders for cheap labor. Thus, I can't believe anybody but a very few who say otherwise. They only say what needs to be said to get elected. All but a few are nothing but bought and paid for lying motherfuckers. It's going to take a disaster before the border is secured. Perhaps then the politicians will finally be held to account.

 

[TGregg]

So is The One going to appease and send ISIS a new reporter every month for head removal?

 

[Lucrum]

So is The One going to appease and send ISIS a new reporter every month for head removal?