ISIS and beheadings...

^Yes there are groups from syria who have joined them. Fighters from Europe and America and Australia have joined them. Chechens and Georgians have joined them, and so on. But "actually" ISIS is from FUCKING IRAQ.

It is good though that you can admit obama's complete failure by even involving us in Syria.
 
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Actually, the US funded the Syrian opposition, a loose coalition of rebels to Assad, some of whom are considered "West friendly". Unfortunately, the elements that would morph into ISIS were part of that coalition.

We also funded Hussein and Afghan militants, which included bin Laden. So if we're going to execute somebody, we could start with Reagan. Oh, wait, he's dead. Oh, well.
 
We also funded Hussein and Afghan militants, which included bin Laden. So if we're going to execute somebody, we could start with Reagan. Oh, wait, he's dead. Oh, well.


That gave me pause, but then I remembered that the bible clearly stated that the US was to support Hussein during the Reagan administration, and it even gave detailed instructions on how to support the Afghan militants. So I guess you'll have to find someone else to behead and satisfy your bloodlust.
 
I posted something about the AUMF the other day.

House GOPer prepares modest bill… authorizing perpetual war, everywhere

If President Obama decides to ask Congress for authorization to fight ISIS in Syria and Iraq — which he should do, if that’s the path he wants to go down — he’ll probably get it. As of now there are two Authorizations for Use of Military Force (AUMF) that members of Congress plan to introduce when they return from the August recess that they’re literally still on: ones from Bill Nelson in the Senate and Frank Wolf in the House. Let’s just say that Wolf’s is a bit, um, broader than Nelson’s. Or to put it another way: Frank Wolf’s will codify the president’s authority to basically bomb whomever he wants, wherever, and whenever, forever.

Nelson’s AUMF, according to a release from his office, would grant the president “authority to order airstrikes against ISIS in Syria.” The president supposedly has already authority to bomb ISIS in Iraq based on the AUMF Congress passed before the Iraq War over a decade ago. That’s always seemed like a tenuous reading of the earlier AUMF’s intention. Nelson should add authorization for military strikes against ISIS in Iraq to this new AUMF as well, for mission clarity.

And then we have Frank Wolf’s. Instead of simply tailoring the mission to ISIS, Wolf grants authority to the President to use “all necessary and appropriate force” against… well, if anyone so much as gives the United States a funny look, the President will have the authority to destroy(or finish off! crush!) them with the full arsenal of American power:

IN GENERAL.—The President is authorized, with the close consultation, coordination, and cooperation with NATO and regional allies, to use all necessary and appropriate force against those countries, organizations, or persons associated with or supporting terrorist groups, including al Qaeda and its regional affiliates, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, al Shabaab, Boko Haram, and any other emerging regional terrorist groups that share a common violent extremist ideology with such terrorist groups, regional affiliates, or emerging terrorist groups, in order to eliminate all such terrorist groups and prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States or its allies by such terrorist groups, countries, organizations, or persons.​

Christ on a hotplate, that’s a lot of leeway. Any “countries, organizations or persons associated with or supporting” any number of current terrorist groups, or unknown faddish terrorist groups of the future, would be open season. Wolf is right in saying that the post-9/11 AUMFs for Al Qaeda/Taliban and Iraq are, by this point, quite dated, and should be replaced with something more reflective of the times. But that doesn’t mean that the replacement has to be authorization for the President to bomb anyone anywhere who’s ever had a nasty thought about America. How about an individual authorization per “threat”? ISIS is a thing; here’s an authorization for ISIS that sunsets after a period of time. Next year, some group of terrorists in some other region will be a thing. A new authorization that sunsets after a period of time for them, too. And so on. The idea being that when the U.S. is going to unleash extensive military operations in a new place, at a new time, a debate and a vote should be had. Some would complain that that would limit the executive’s “flexibility.” No shit.

Wolf is a longtime Northern Virginia congressman whose district contains many defense contractors. He’s retiring at the end of this term. Not to be all cynical, but to be all cynical, one could consider this AUMF Wolf’s parting gifts to the military-industrial complex with whom he’s had such a mutually beneficial relationship over the years. That’s sweet of him. But this is going to some… tweaks? Nah, just throw the whole thing out.

Jim Newell
 
We also funded Hussein and Afghan militants, which included bin Laden. So if we're going to execute somebody, we could start with Reagan. Oh, wait, he's dead. Oh, well.
hey DBag, was that before or after the snakbars blew up our buildings and fucking mass murdered civilians? oh right, it was before.

IF the obama admin intentionally armed al qaeda or their affiliates anywhere, then they absolutely are traitors.
 
hey DBag, was that before or after the snakbars blew up our buildings and fucking mass murdered civilians? oh right, it was before.

IF the obama admin intentionally armed al qaeda or their affiliates anywhere, then they absolutely are traitors.

So Reagan and the Bushes are traitors?
 
So you've never heard of, for starters, Iran Contra?
so you don't understand that we are AT WAR with al qaeda and have been for over a decade? You don't know they mass murdered 3000 Americans in one day? You don't know they killed thousands of US soldiers in iraq and afghanistan?
 
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