Not very similar: that one specifies that a minimum of 7 years' C++ programming experience is required, whereas the OP is willing to take new college graduates.
Is working Asian hours that bad?
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Not very similar: that one specifies that a minimum of 7 years' C++ programming experience is required, whereas the OP is willing to take new college graduates.
From what I've read by FCXOptions on this board I'd say he's exactly the person you're looking for if you can snag him.
He is in NY. Obviously you can't put everyone or even most people in a basket. I do think there is a subset of your generation who is working very hard to make that "image" stick. LOL. But there will always be smart and hungry guys and girls out there willing to work their ass off to make it in this world. Usually they are foreigners. LOL. You have to admit, that video was funny as shit. The first time I watched it I choked on my water.
You would be surprised how many "new graduates" have 5+ years of programming experience. Kids today start learning Python and R in high school and by the time they get out of college they may actually have 5 to 10 years already in those languages. I don't know exactly what Sle is looking for but I suspect you better have a pretty good grasp of Python, SQL and you better be able to speaking intelligently about anything in Paul Wilmot's quantitative finance books.
Not in the same basket, anyway - at least not without taking all the eggs out first.
It's funny how much this post contrasts with the earlier posts. I agree with your assessment that there are a lot of kids coming out of college with 5-10 years of programming experience. I find that pretty amazing, in a "kids these days kick ass compared to kids my days" kind of way. Back in my day (gen-x) you graduated high school hopefully knowing how to type and turn on a computer, you had 2 years of another language, and only the best schools were offering college level course work for those who wanted it and could handle it. Now my kids are taking high-school level language classes in middle school, a significant number of high school graduates effectively have an AA level education on graduating from high school, and as you point out we've got a lot of really good coders or at least people who have a really good start right out of high school. In short, the A players from the millennial generation are significantly ahead of where the A players from mine were at the high school and college graduation level. Unfortunately the generation get's stereotyped on the C players, but luckily those aren't the millennials I work with.
No, no contrast. Here is the difference. Your generation (and probably mine) came out of school as you pointed knowing 10% of what kids today know. For example, I took a "typing class" in high school. Yet what we "did" with that limited ability was amazing. Today, kids can program, study economics in high school, are very tech savvy yet what do they do with all this knowledge and ability? For many, absolutely nothing. THAT is my bigger point. I never said these kids were stupid. In fact, quite the opposite. These kids know 10 times what I knew at their ages yet I still run circles around them. It's not knowledge they are lacking, it's drive! Unfortunately as I'm sure you must know, to survive in this business knowledge and a $1.80 will get a subway token. It takes an extraordinary amount of drive and persistence to get somewhere in the business of alpha extraction in capital markets. And a lot of these kids are missing that. The fact that you work with "some" that are not like that is called a data point. I have several friends working in Hollywood. Another meaningless data point.
Yes - although I suspect that the advertiser (in the instance we're discussing) probably intended it to be taken as "7 years' employment-based C++ programming experience", this was a good and perfectly valid point. I often forget that other people my age are typically far from being as technophobic and incompetent as I am.
Just my $.02 but I think in many ways programming is easier nowadays.
Back in the day if you wanted any form of performance then you had to learn Assembly Language to talk directly to chips. You had to learn DMA, Interrupts, CPU Timings ect...C and especially C++ was too damn slow.
Nowadays everything is abstracted. You just need to learn a set of APIs and take a pre-existing code base and glue it together. Millennials take their grand ideas and "glue" software together. Am I really a Chef if I cook a pre-made frozen meal from the store? Maybe not a Chef but I still cooked something.
Even Hardware itself has been abstracted with Virtualization and the Cloud. "Back in the day" many great ideas could not happen due to a lack of computing power, memory and storage ect...
Heck, many Millennials skip learning a structured language is now old school. Compute power, memory and bandwidth are so plentiful that non-compiled/VM languages like Java and C# are now the norm.
Back in the day you had to learn assembly if you wanted to do something cool. Even if you started with BASIC or Pascal you had better learn some assembly if you wanted to do anything performance intensive.
Millennials will never understand the pure hell of not having documentation. They will never understand how easy it was to run out of memory. Now all information is just a mouse click away. Now you can surf GitHub all day and just copy and paste code.
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This is actually a very insightful post. Well done.