Is This The End Of Tesla ?

[Cuddles]

lol, first yr tesla vs bmw m3

near ending quote from top gear " maybe Elon is not as crazy as everyone thinks"

Should've just tested against a mustang gt. The M3 hasn't been particularly fast in a while. And the ford is closer in price to the model 3.

https://motoiq.com/project-e90-m3-head-to-head-with-2016-mustang-gt/4/
https://www.cars.com/articles/-brau...-mustang-gt-performance-pack-2-1420701377082/

 

[Banjo]

The internet is the broadest Dunning-Kruger effect experiment to date. Give a man a keyboard, an ISP, and no matter how deep into the knowledgeless hinterlands exist the rabbit hole he has chosen to crawl down, he gets a voice. This deluge of random voices has twisted and knotted our world into something barely conceivable two decades ago. The disparity between information and knowledge is variable. Knowledge is empirical, information, especially the ejaculate of random internet participants is seldom a transfer of the empirical.
The future is always with us, just not in enough volume to be noticed by most. There are two glaringly obvious unstoppable drivers of EV's.
1. Carbon credits. They're a magnificent boon for govts. Create them out of thin air and impose them on anything that moves.The world wide marketing campaign is well underway, Global warming.
2. Demographics. Natural generational shifts, generally, if you're over 35 people just starting college think differently than you do even though you may not believe it. The next generation is not far behind them. The future will provide vastly different tool sets through materials and manufacturing engineering innovation. Don't fight the future.
There are 147 EV mfgs in China. Very few will survive. Tesla has only ~ 1% of that mkt. It's a slog and they may well fail there. Many foreign cos. do. Tesla owns "mindshare", can get financing, can solve mfg. problems and innovate. They have empirical knowledge others don't.

 

[schweiz]

It is hilarious how people use speed and acceleration as valid criteria to proof who the winner is.
Especially in a country where the speed limit is around 75mph in best case. ROFLMAO.
And is the 0.6 sec faster to 60 mph important? If you do that acceleration many times in the US you will get problems with the police in no time, and your battery will be empty within 100 miles. So there the BMW will win, which means that you should first calculate how many times you accelerate from 0-60mph each day.
Are the US roads racing circuits? Because apparently racing on a circuit seems to be very important if you buy a car.

 

[nooby_mcnoob]

The internet is the broadest Dunning-Kruger effect experiment to date. Give a man a keyboard, an ISP, and no matter how deep into the knowledgeless hinterlands exist the rabbit hole he has chosen to crawl down, he gets a voice. This deluge of random voices has twisted and knotted our world into something barely conceivable two decades ago. The disparity between information and knowledge is variable. Knowledge is empirical, information, especially the ejaculate of random internet participants is seldom a transfer of the empirical.
The future is always with us, just not in enough volume to be noticed by most. There are two glaringly obvious unstoppable drivers of EV's.
1. Carbon credits. They're a magnificent boon for govts. Create them out of thin air and impose them on anything that moves.The world wide marketing campaign is well underway, Global warming.
2. Demographics. Natural generational shifts, generally, if you're over 35 people just starting college think differently than you do even though you may not believe it. The next generation is not far behind them. The future will provide vastly different tool sets through materials and manufacturing engineering innovation. Don't fight the future.
There are 147 EV mfgs in China. Very few will survive. Tesla has only ~ 1% of that mkt. It's a slog and they may well fail there. Many foreign cos. do. Tesla owns "mindshare", can get financing, can solve mfg. problems and innovate. They have empirical knowledge others don't.

I think the Chinese government is going to fuck over Tesla big time

 

[sellindexvol66]

It is hilarious how people use speed and acceleration as valid criteria to proof who the winner is.
Especially in a country where the speed limit is around 75mph in best case. ROFLMAO.
And is the 0.6 sec faster to 60 mph important? If you do that acceleration many times in the US you will get problems with the police in no time, and your battery will be empty within 100 miles. So there the BMW will win, which means that you should first calculate how many times you accelerate from 0-60mph each day.
Are the US roads racing circuits? Because apparently racing on a circuit seems to be very important if you buy a car.

i get why so many people ignore you.

the Tesla is more efficient (132mpg equiv) runs 325 miles, more fun, safer, etc etc

and

it beats bmw in the below..in its first year.

the Tesla beat the bmw on the track times, in addition to 0-60, 0-100-0...your ignorance is amazing.

 

[nooby_mcnoob]

All of this being said it is clear there is an anti musk sentiment that exists. This sentiment may serve to have such people move against Tesla to force a margin call on musk who has borrowed against shares. Still downward bias on the stock price imo. They're going to squeeze him until he breaks.

 

[schweiz]

i get why so many people ignore you.

the Tesla is more efficient (132mpg equiv) runs 325 miles, more fun, safer, etc etc

and

it beats bmw in the below..in its first year.

the Tesla beat the bmw on the track times, in addition to 0-60, 0-100-0...your ignorance is amazing.

So you are stupid as you don't ignore me?

Can you tell me, but also proof it, how many people ignore me? You have no clue.
And many ignores can also tell something about these people. Idiot people are too idiot to understand what makes sense and what doesn't. They systematically ignore people as they think they are smarter than anybody else.

I do a lot of trips (most of them) that are over 1,300 km long. I want to compete with any Tesla that I will do this distance faster than they do. I must admit however that the first few hunderd meters the Tesla might be 0.6 seconds faster. LOL.

PS: Watching the likes it looks like you score more ignores than me. Or that what you post is less interesting.

 

[Pekelo]

because he missed a quarter.

Or 2.

Even Elon is saying Q2 is going to be a loss and he always exaggerates. Seriously, if they are selling more and more cars at a profit, and they don't spend much on capex and services, how can they lose money???

Must be the Tesla way. Also how they rolled over a related small 164 MM debt, because who has cash when you need it???

I won't even bring up the desperate 38% drop on solar panels, because they are selling as hotcakes...

 

[Pekelo]

it is clear there is an anti musk sentiment that exists.

True. Most people call it REALITY.

 

[schweiz]

There is no place in the US where a Tesla can beat a 85mph fast low budget car.
And if the distance goes beyond 500 miles the Tesla can even not catch up with that budget car. Speed is totally irrelevant in the US. Only in Germany or a part of Australia speed is relevant. But then Tesla has the problem that it cannot use that speed for over 1 hour as speed needs a lot of electricity. 1 hour of full speed and it is game over for Tesla.