Is there an order in the Universe?

Is there a Divine Order in the Universe?

  • Yes - we can see its miracles every day

    Votes: 15 55.6%

  • No - there is only randomness and chaos

    Votes: 12 44.4%
  • Total voters
    27
It is good to see proof of Order(aka God) via math.

For example, ask someone you know to shuffle a deck of cards, draw 26 cards, one at a time, and write it down.

Then take that order of 26 cards to your favorite stat expert and ask him what are the odds your friend drew the cards in that order.

He will answer it is about 5 x 10^42; an impossibility; therefore, your friend must have supernatural powers.

Seneca

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.”
 
I specifically stated this is not a complexity argument. It is a misunderstanding of the physics, logic, and statistics to think that a comparison to random coin flips or card shuffles invalidates the argument.

The deck of card analogy is specious. There is a big difference between saying someone wins a lottery twice and saying for you to exist you must win a trillion lotteries in a row.

Just because something is unlikely but it exists, does not invalidate an argument that it was designed.

You have to actually research the arguments. You might even wish to attempt to learn why Hawking and Other famous names from physics propose a multiverse.
 
Quote from stu:

"The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference." - Richard Dawkins
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Thank you for this contribution to truth. In the end, it is meaningless. Meanwhile, it can be given a purpose which it before lacked.

Jesus
 
Quote from vhehn:

no he didnt. here is how god made the universe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7I73DNguRI
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Point well taken. And when this world ends there will be even greater laughter in Heaven when it is discovered God had nothing to do with any of these scenarios.

Meanwhile, it's fun to either credit or blame God for the making of this universe. You can however hold the Son of God responsible for playing with matches, so-to-speak. This "world" was dreamed up by the "Prodigal Son", of which I spoke so fondly. Who is the Prodigal Son but the Son of God? ... and who are we collectively, but the Son of God? The apparent immensity, complexity, and design of the universe merely bespeaks of the power of the Son of God. The power is such that illusion is made to seem real. His power includes the ability to deceive himself in an illusion. Yet it is not more significant than the dream (or nightmare) you had last night that you thought was real while you were dreaming it. And all that is left is to wake up and go back Home. For all practical purposes, it never happened, and our Father holds no grudges against us, nor do we hold any against each other.

Amen

Jesus
 
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