Is the USA ready for it's first non-2-party president?

Is the USA within a term of electing a radically different president?

  • Yes. And this person will not back down no matter what.

    Votes: 5 23.8%
  • Nah. Same old same old.

    Votes: 14 66.7%
  • I don't know.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I don't care.

    Votes: 2 9.5%

  • Total voters
    21
Quote from nitro:

Perhaps you have heard the argument that, if everyone was forced to start at zero again, that the money would land in the same hands it is today anyway. There is a strong argument that this is true, but of course it is conjecture.

I do disagree with (what I think) is the tone of your objection (no offense meant). The people that have all the money today are extremely hard working. In fact, many of them have no lives to speak of outside work. But that in itself is a huge problem. Someone suggested to me that this has to do with protestant (Christian ?) guilt that built this nation, and espoused by Max Weber in "The protestant ethic and the spirit of Capitalism", but I am not sure.

One thing is fore sure, we are in critical "Red Queen" economic state. We may have more measured by the crap that we store in our closets, but we have to work way harder just to stay in place. The spirit is a wasteland in this country. The whole thing seems untenable to me, but then the problem is that we as humans don't live long enough to live through history. What I think is awful, may in fact be trivial by historical standards...

What is funny (tragic ?) is that the entire world has bought into the american system. Collapse is imminent within 200 years unless something fundamental changes.

Nothing will collapse, this by design. The world is run by a plutocracy. Individuals who can see this and act will be fine. Everyone else is labor. Surplus labor will be culled. People who endure a "collapse" are those people who did average in high school, average in college. They have been trained, but not educated. These types are not even a dime a dozen, they are more like a penny a dozen.

People who understand what is going on are preparing, and will be out of harms way when the tsunami comes.
 
Quote from nitro:

Perhaps you have heard the argument that, if everyone was forced to start at zero again, that the money would land in the same hands it is today anyway. There is a strong argument that this is true, but of course it is conjecture.

I think it depends on what you mean by "starting at zero" - you mean everybody starts as an infant and gets the same upbringing/resources?

Nurture counts for a lot. Knowledge is currency. If you are better-off financially, you can hire people who are smarter than you to take care of some things.
 
Typical bitter jealousy from hateful poor people who haven't dealt with their own failures. The reaction? Resent the privileges of others...

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

" I think they should do away with generational inheritance for example. The way the inheritance law is now, if you think about it, it is a kind of eugenics."

The inconsistency from the ruling right wing class, is they emphasis the value of making it on one's own, the glory of creating your own destiny, is the American way and the highest ideal.

Well, if this is such a great thing, then why should they want to deprive their very own children from such a valuable life experience?

No, they simply want to continue an aristocracy in their own name...and preach to the poor that they should work their asses off because it is good for their souls.
 
Quote from nitro:

"... Obama wants to do the right thing to get people working

Wrong, he's more a "Fist up everybody's ass to control every aspect of our lives, Socialist/Communist". He only APPEARS to be moderating so that he might get reelected in 2012. If he does, don't be surprised if he wields a HUGE SOCIALISTIC HAMMER to smash every American freedom.. He does NOT "want people working in the private sector", regardless of his spew... he wants people dependent upon the government for their "living" so that they can be controlled.

He's been a monumental LIAR AND FRAUD SINCE DAY-ONE, and still is.

:mad:
 
Quote from nitro:

Perhaps you have heard the argument that, if everyone was forced to start at zero again, that the money would land in the same hands it is today anyway. There is a strong argument that this is true, but of course it is conjecture.

If you are poor and get a million $, you will piss it away.

If you are rich and get a million $, you will piss it away but get bailed out.

:p
 
Is the USA ready for it's first non-2-party president?

Only those few Americans who are "awake" and looking down the road, instead of at their iPhone.
So, I voted "Nah. Same old same old".
 
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