Is palin still a candidate for president?
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The bill is not finished which makes it hard to debate.The government doesn't always pick up the entire cost on Medicaid and Medicare so i doubt the public option would
Lets also not forget that most private insurance plans don't pay for everything either. many plans pay 80 %, have 2000-5000 deductibles,3000 a day max benefits,max lifetime benefits,no benefits when the insurance company tries to say you had a pre existing condition etc
I do know that there are no death panels,never was,never will be
Even most Republicans agree that there was never any death panels like idiot Palin and idiot bugscoe said
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908270004
Luntz tells Fox & Friends hosts: "It isn't a death panel," Obama opponents have "gone too far"
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Medicare and Medicaid patients aren't complaining about death boards
The problem here is one of literalness versus reality. Liberals defend obama care by pointing to the absence of specific language mandating this or that. Conservatives point to the inevitability of it and the fact that the bills open the door. As Pat Buchanan pointed out in his latest commentary, the details will be left for government agencies to flesh out. That is where the specifics of whogets what kind of care will be decided. As he said, expect to see a parade of senators claiming "well I never would have voted for it if I knew that would happen."
We have a long and painful history of liberals promising us that nothing bad will happen from their schemes. We were told the income tax would never be moe than 2 or 3%. We were told civil rights acts would never mandate affirmative action or racial quotas. We were told the Americans Wtih Disabilities Act would only protect those with severe physical handicaps. We were told social security was a trust fund that was self-financing. Ditto for medicare. We were told mandatory fuel economy standards would not compromise safety. All were lies.
Bill Clinton promised a middle class tax cut, Obama promised 95% would see their taxes go down. Both were lies.
People are right to extrapolate the worst possible outcomes from liberal programs. We have decades of experience to prove it.
We have a long and painful history of liberals promising us that nothing bad will happen from their schemes. We were told the income tax would never be moe than 2 or 3%. We were told civil rights acts would never mandate affirmative action or racial quotas. We were told the Americans Wtih Disabilities Act would only protect those with severe physical handicaps. We were told social security was a trust fund that was self-financing. Ditto for medicare. We were told mandatory fuel economy standards would not compromise safety. All were lies.
Bill Clinton promised a middle class tax cut, Obama promised 95% would see their taxes go down. Both were lies.
People are right to extrapolate the worst possible outcomes from liberal programs. We have decades of experience to prove it.
Pretty much any democrat.
We heard from the media and democrats for years that Ronald Reagan was a dimwitted cowboy who would wreck our country. He turned out to be the greatest president of the 20th century. We were told endlessly that Obama was an incredibly brilliant and gifted leader who would be our salvation. Instead, he is what was apparent to some of us all along, an inexperienced radical activist, controlled by the worst elements of the chicago democrat mob.
Are we supposed to vote for Republicans ?
Republicans claim to be the party of fiscal responsibility ,yet the national debt quadrupled during the Reagan and Bush presidencies, declined during the Clinton presidency, and doubled during Bush's presidency
Republicans claim to be the party of a strong national defense,yet 9-11 and the Iraq war happened under a Republican
Republicans claim to be the party of smaller government,yet Bush grew the size of the national government more the any recent president
Republicans claim to be the party of strong economics ,yet we have facts like these
"Democrats and Republicans have followed different approaches to the economy for as long as there have been Democrats and Republicans. Longer, actually. Remember Hamilton versus Jefferson?
Many Americans know that there are characteristic policy differences between the two parties. But few are aware of two important facts about the post-World War II era, both of which are brilliantly delineated in a new book, âUnequal Democracy,â by Larry M. Bartels, a professor of political science at Princeton. Understanding them might help voters see what could be at stake, economically speaking, in November.
I call the first fact the Great Partisan Growth Divide. Simply put, the United States economy has grown faster, on average, under Democratic presidents than under Republicans.
The stark contrast between the whiz-bang Clinton years and the dreary Bush years is familiar because it is so recent. But while it is extreme, it is not atypical. Data for the whole period from 1948 to 2007, during which Republicans occupied the White House for 34 years and Democrats for 26, show average annual growth of real gross national product of 1.64 percent per capita under Republican presidents versus 2.78 percent under Democrats.
That 1.14-point difference, if maintained for eight years, would yield 9.33 percent more income per person, which is a lot more than almost anyone can expect from a tax cut..
Alan S. Blinder is a professor of economics and public affairs at Princeton and former vice chairman of the Federal Reserve"[/B]