My stops are always under/over the structure containing the signal and entry. As alluded to yesterday, an inferred or implied pullback appears as a one bar structure but on a lower time frame, it will print as a conventional flag, so a stop below/above that bar is actually under a flag structure. I used to take more signals eg double tops and bottoms, divergent lows/highs etc but I now only take two types of signals...various permutations of flags (consolidations) and zone (33-66%) retracements of measurable trend legs. There are no lack of signals in any given week. Typically on flags my target is 2x initial risk all in-all out. That target is not arbitrary but is commonly hit on entries of that type. I extensively forward test signals before I go live with them. Commonly meaning more often hit than stopped although I do go to breakeven stop on the ATM at 30 ticks if the target exceeds that. That BE trigger IS arbitrary, I don't want to take a loss if price moves that far in my direction. For zone trades I keep a couple of runners for fib extension targets...including full measured moves. Extension targets are commonly hit and the full MM worth trailing a stop as price moves beyond initial targets. My entries are stop entries, the afternoon long which I didn't take would have been entered after the third bull bar before the pullback inferred flag on the bull bar following it (13:50). The short later was below the 15:05 large bear bar on the bear bar following the 3 bull correction. Had it already been an established trend I might well have entered under the third bull (doji) bar as it was a clean 3 bar flag correction off of bear impulse.