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is facebook founder a traitor?
- Thread starter Free Thinker
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if you don't leave soon you won't be allowed to take anything with you
i think saverin is a genius for leaving
i think saverin is a genius for leaving
Quote from dumb_mother:
if you don't leave soon you won't be allowed to take anything with you
i think saverin is a genius for leaving
"if you don't leave soon you won't be allowed to take anything with you."
exactly.
ET posters are clueless that in the future there will be a run on the $US and capital controls will be imposed.
Quote from zboy2854A:
BOOM. Another fantastic point. End of story.
If he'd never set foot in the US chances are he'd never have gone to Harvard, met Zuckerberg, and so on. We can both bring up hypotheticals til doomsday. In real life, he met Zuckerberg while a citizen, went to Harvard while a citizen, did all the stuff he did as a citizen, and as a result it was all a lot easier than it would have been had he been doing it all from a base in, say, Sao Paulo.
Whatever. What I like is that everywhere else people know what an ass he's being, but around here, it's all black helicopter type paranoia and the eehvull gov't is taking all the money, all the time. I have yet to meet anyone in real life who thinks the world is coming to an end and the US and everyone in it is horribly doomed and needs to get out with all their assets. Most people are doing OK, and adapting to the realities of the post bubble economy without getting all loopy.
I think y'all spend too much time in your basements. Get out some and breathe. You'll enjoy the change.
Me, I'm sticking to the options forum from now on. At least people act like they're sane over there. That's all I need.
Quote from trefoil:
If he'd never set foot in the US chances are he'd never have gone to Harvard, met Zuckerberg, and so on. We can both bring up hypotheticals til doomsday. In real life, he met Zuckerberg while a citizen, went to Harvard while a citizen, did all the stuff he did as a citizen, and as a result it was all a lot easier than it would have been had he been doing it all from a base in, say, Sao Paulo.
Whatever. What I like is that everywhere else people know what an ass he's being, but around here, it's all black helicopter type paranoia and the eehvull gov't is taking all the money, all the time. I have yet to meet anyone in real life who thinks the world is coming to an end and the US and everyone in it is horribly doomed and needs to get out with all their assets. Most people are doing OK, and adapting to the realities of the post bubble economy without getting all loopy.
I think y'all spend too much time in your basements. Get out some and breathe. You'll enjoy the change.
Me, I'm sticking to the options forum from now on. At least people act like they're sane over there. That's all I need.
Why are you ignoring the fact that he's already paid his taxes during the years he was doing those things?
Seriously, does that count for nothing in your eyes? Because, to me, it seems like his invoice for the costs incurred during the time he lived here in the US can be marked "paid in full", but apparently the fact that he (apparently, anyway, only the IRS knows for sure) paid his taxes means nothing to you. It seems pretty simple to me. You live here and the government incurs costs to provide you with public services, you owe them compensation for those costs. You don't live here and don't plan to, that's the end of the financial relationship. That's how it works with companies and I'm not understanding how a country is supposed to be different. Why, because someone said it was different? So? Maybe in the olden days when people basically had no options to move away from their tribe or clan, but it's fucking 2012, not 10,000 B.C. Honestly, you sound like some kind of caveman brought out of suspended hibernation with your ideas about the relationship between the individual and the state.
I'm trying to understand your special kind of "sanity" because to me it just sounds like you are rationalizing and now you are ready to walk away declaring yourself the only person who doesn't live in a basement or something.
Quote from trefoil:
If he'd never set foot in the US chances are he'd never have gone to Harvard, met Zuckerberg, and so on. We can both bring up hypotheticals til doomsday. In real life, he met Zuckerberg while a citizen, went to Harvard while a citizen, did all the stuff he did as a citizen, and as a result it was all a lot easier than it would have been had he been doing it all from a base in, say, Sao Paulo.
The principle remains the same regardless. He could have easily been a foreign student at Harvard and met Zuckerberg all the same. The point is, if he wouldn't have owed the U.S. anything further for use of our "system" if he had been a foreign exchange student, then neither does he owe anything further to the U.S. on future earnings as a non-U.S. citizen. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.
Me, I'm sticking to the options forum from now on. At least people act like they're sane over there. That's all I need.
Ah, the ad hominem attack. The last refuge of the logically bankrupt.
Quote from logic_man:
Why are you ignoring the fact that he's already paid his taxes during the years he was doing those things?
Seriously, does that count for nothing in your eyes? Because, to me, it seems like his invoice for the costs incurred during the time he lived here in the US can be marked "paid in full", but apparently the fact that he (apparently, anyway, only the IRS knows for sure) paid his taxes means nothing to you. It seems pretty simple to me. You live here and the government incurs costs to provide you with public services, you owe them compensation for those costs. You don't live here and don't plan to, that's the end of the financial relationship. That's how it works with companies and I'm not understanding how a country is supposed to be different. Why, because someone said it was different? So? Maybe in the olden days when people basically had no options to move away from their tribe or clan, but it's fucking 2012, not 10,000 B.C. Honestly, you sound like some kind of caveman brought out of suspended hibernation with your ideas about the relationship between the individual and the state.
I'm trying to understand your special kind of "sanity" because to me it just sounds like you are rationalizing and now you are ready to walk away declaring yourself the only person who doesn't live in a basement or something.
Always remember this quote:
"It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument."
--William J. McAdoo
probably not. the tax system in the us is set up to subsidise startups. it is concievable that he could go from a student to a billion dollars in net worth and never pay any income tax.Quote from logic_man:
Why are you ignoring the fact that he's already paid his taxes during the years he was doing those things?