Is Cathie woods going to receive a margin call?

[SunTrader]

I hope she hedged otherwise she's just going to be another Bill Hwang, just investing in a particular segment of an asset class.

Would be fitting since he seeded her first 4 funds.

 

[newwurldmn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Madoff

the 65bn included fabricated gains. Real fraud was 18bn. It’s clearly stated in the wiki.

 

[TheDawn]

the 65bn included fabricated gains. Real fraud was 18bn. It’s clearly stated in the wiki.

No since Madoff never invested anything so 100% of the "gains" are raised. And according to the records, the loss was close to $65 billion so all of that was raised.

 

[newwurldmn]

I hope she hedged otherwise she's just going to be another Bill Hwang, just investing in a particular segment of an asset class. Past performance is not an indicator of future performance. Nobody has a highly successful business catering to investors forever.

of course she didn’t. It’s not in her mandate.

lots of people make money catering to investors forever. Every mutual fund does this: Literally hundreds of trillions of dollars worth of investors.

Bill hwang is different. He was actually trying to generate alpha and was extra levered.

What’s amazing is all the hate for cathie and nothing for tiger global who can hedge by their mandate.

 

[newwurldmn]

No since Madoff never invested anything so 100% of the "gains" are raised. And according to the records, the loss was close to $65 billion so all of that was raised.

read the wiki. It’s really clear.

 

[The_Krakenite]

Bill hwang is different. He was actually trying to generate alpha and was extra levered.

He did help out Cathie with her ARKK back in the day. However, he's apparently got far worse issues to deal with now than margin-calls:

 

[JackMorgan]

LOL that is her .... but 30 years ago.

Talk about blind.

yer full of crap

 

[JackMorgan]

No leverage used with ARKK.

https://helpcenter.ark-funds.com/do-the-ark-etfs-use-any-leverage

Its internally leveraged 1000x by buying garbage

 

[JackMorgan]

I don’t think he did. I think he claimed to have 10bn but the actual losses were pretty small.

In any case I was wrong about cathie. She raised 54 billion. And while madoff was a fraud, cathie has a legitimate highly successful business catering to a specific investor class.

What class is that ?

 

[xandman]

If I were 2/20 on 56 billion I wouldn’t be on elitetrader.

Point well made, Sir. Still a BSD in my book.