Is Capital Punishment ever justified?

[hapaboy]

Quote from picknclick:

Yes

Predisposition plus the dumbass could have filed a civil suit, made some money, and tortured the perpetrator for the rest of his days. That's enough for me, as a would-be juror, to recommend the death penalty. Then again, we shouldn't execute the mentally challenged. I retract my yes answer.

ROFL!

 

[hapaboy]

Sgt. Asan Akbar - the 101st Airborne sergeant who rolled three or four grenades into the tents of his sleeping superiors then proceeded to shoot some of those who sought to flee the ensuing fire and carnage.

As I'm sure you all know, one of the victims has died, and several are in critical condition.

Maybe someone familiar with the Uniform Code of Military Justice can share with us what the maximum penalty is for this under military law....

 

[rs7]

Quote from hapaboy:

Sgt. Asan Akbar - the 101st Airborne sergeant who rolled three or four grenades into the tents of his sleeping superiors then proceeded to shoot some of those who sought to flee the ensuing fire and carnage.

As I'm sure you all know, one of the victims has died, and several are in critical condition.

Maybe someone familiar with the Uniform Code of Military Justice can share with us what the maximum penalty is for this under military law....

A second victim has died.

Maximum penalty is death. You could have easily looked it up. You also should have figured out that if desertion is punishable by death, murder would be. (Well publicized story of the execution of Pvt. Eddie Slovik .....book, movie.....you don't need to be Tommy Franks, or a JAG to know this much about military law).

Peace,
Rs7

PS:http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm (not hard to find).

Save you some time:

918. ART. 118. MURDER
Any person subject to this chapter whom without justification or excuse, unlawfully kills a human being, when he- -
(1) has a premeditated design to kill;
(2) intends to kill or inflict great bodily harm;
(3) is engaged in an act which is inherently dangerous to others and evinces a wanton disregard of human life; or
(4) is engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of burglary, sodomy, rape, robbery, or aggravated arson;
is guilty of murder, and shall suffer such punishment as a court-martial may direct, except that if found guilty under clause (1) or (4), he shall suffer death or imprisonment for life as a court-martial may direct.

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from rs7:

Maximum penalty is death. You could have easily looked it up.

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated, scolding and all.... I did indeed think that death was the max penalty; I posted my query just prior to going to bed and was going to look it up today if noone had yet done so...forgive me for asking a question so easily researched.

Moving on, should a distinction be made between murder committed by a member of the armed forces versus murder as a civilian?

Given that murderers in the civilian world are not automatically sentenced to life imprisonment or death, are you for or against the reasoning that harsher penalties exist in the military in order to maintain discipline?

 

[hapaboy]

I'm talking about the idiots we've been catching every day now, the jokers in the CENTCOM deck of cards.

These scumbags have been responsible for the murder, torture, rape, and imprisonment of untold hundreds of thousands.

So what's the verdict?

 

[harrytrader]

Oh no it's better to let them alive the government finance 5$ of prison for 1$ of school so that it is a huge business ressource are you antipatriot hahaha !

But before talking about punishment you'd better talk about PREVENTION and ask the question of WHY HUH ?!!!

Quote from hapaboy:

Please explain your answer.

Besides being in favor of capital punishment for drug dealers, I also am in favor of executing murderers, rapists and child molesters.

And before the subject comes up and so there is no shadow of a doubt as to guilt, let the scenarios be that the perpetrator in question has been linked to the crime either via witnesses/security cameras/self-taped videos and DNA testing.

Furthermore, for those of you worried about costs, i.e. $1 million per capital execution, let us take either the Malaysian method of hanging or the Chinese method of a single bullet to the back of the head and then charging the family for the bullet. Cheap.

 

[hapaboy]

Someday, perhaps in the near future, part of what you write will be decipherable.

 

[harrytrader]

Someday, perhaps in the near future, you will be able to buy a new brain
Then you should be able to understand some subtlety, this one from 1984 for example which is my favorite excerpt:

"To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which canceled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget, whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself -- that was the ultimate subtlety; consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink."

Quote from hapaboy:

Someday, perhaps in the near future, part of what you write will be decipherable.

 

[hapaboy]

interesting how your grammar improves astronomically after being insulted!

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, are you for or against executing Saddam's henchmen? Don't bother with "subtlety."

 

[candletrader]

Quote from hapaboy:

interesting how your grammar improves astronomically after being insulted!

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, are you for or against executing Saddam's henchmen? Don't bother with "subtlety."

ROFL... but I like his lion cub!!